The Republican Office of New Mexico's headquarters in Albuquerque was intentionally set on fire in an act of arson.
  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 days ago

    Masked thugs kidnapping people, including PhD students, off the street and into unmarked vehicles.

    Yeah, I’d say ICE has some things in common with the KKK.

    Also, the burned look works well on that building.

  • MasterNerd@lemm.ee
    231·
    2 days ago

    I find it hard to believe anyone would actually equate ICE with the KKK when the only thing they really have in common is racism. They’re much more equatable to the Gestapo and KGB

  • The_Caretaker@lemm.eeEnglish
    851·
    2 days ago

    A reminder to people who call this an act of violence, it isn’t. Violence can only be committed against living things. This is arson which is a type of vandalism. If there are people or animals inside, then it’s violence. If only property is damaged it’s vandalism or sabotage, depending on the purpose of the damage.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    231·
    2 days ago

    The reason why the fascists want you to protest peacefully, is because it makes it easier for them to ignore you.

  • futatorius@lemm.ee
    10·
    2 days ago

    I wonder if someone parked a Tesla next to the HQ. They seem to have a habit of spontaneously combusting.

      • pyre@lemmy.world
        615·
        3 days ago

        they’ve already taken over. this is retaliatory, and therefore not analogous.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
          334·
          3 days ago

          Hitler was chancellor already when the reichstag fire started. What it did was allow him to seize absolute control. We’re not there yet. Courts are still ruling against trump. Elections haven’t been cancelled yet. It’s a mistake to assume things are already as extreme as they’re going to get.

          • pyre@lemmy.world
            506·
            3 days ago

            they’re currently disappearing people for looking funny and sending them to blacksites to be abused and tortured just for the sake of it, and they’re not obeying court orders. they also have already had the Supreme Court give them a get out of jail free card for literally anything the president may do. they’re decimating the institutions on the demands of an unelected, unofficially acting billionaire. they’re literally erasing women and black people as well as other minorities from history.

            I think it’s a bigger mistake to pretend they still have ways to go. this is through and through fascism. at this point, if they fire up the ovens, it will only be the continuation of their current actions, barely an escalation.

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
              45·
              3 days ago

              I think it’s an even bigger mistake to think that starting a fire in a single state’s party HQ is going to move the needle at all. It’s not going to hurt them. It is going to give them ammo. Go big or go home.

              • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
                101·
                3 days ago

                I, uhh, was being sarcastic. It is in fact allowed to do that on the internet, even if you don’t actively announce it. But I definitely am a coward though.

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
              611·
              3 days ago

              Perhaps instead of saying stupid things on the internet you could spend some time reading up on WW2 history

              • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
                17·
                3 days ago

                Perhaps instead of being a big meanie pants you could look outside and realise that just because they’re also nazis it doesn’t mean everything has to happen 100% word-for-word the exact same way like some kind of shitty sci-fi movie. I get that the symbolism is compelling and everything. But nevertheless burning down nazi buildings is good, actually.

              • arotrios@lemmy.worldEnglish
                13·
                3 days ago

                You’re both right, and you both got my upvotes.

                The current administration will absolutely use any unrest it can to solidify its grip, and they are, as @the_crotch@sh.it.just.works mentions, looking for just such an event to declare martial law.

                But @pourous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml is also correct in understanding that this process has already begun, and that retaliatory actions are not specifically analogous, especially as it’s very likely that the Reichstag fire was a false flag event engineered by the Nazis themselves as an excuse for Kristallnacht.

                Will this kind of event help in the long term? I’m uncertain. On the one hand, it’s really good to see resistance take physical form with the potential to inspire further action, but on the other, it means that the right can use it as an excuse to further oppress. Since the mass media has been captured by the right, it’s most likely that the perception of this event will be tailored to reflect the latter.

                So, unless this action created an impact on the GOP beyond simple property damage (like destroying lists of political opponents they’re looking to deport), I think this action will likely backfire per @the_crotch’s conclusion. However, that could be offset by the publicity inspiring further resistance on the left. And @pourous_grey_matter is very correct in understanding that we have a very small window of opportunity to act.

                So kiss and make up - you’re on the same side, and celebrate the fact that you can argue about tactics publicly.

                We may not have that option for much longer.

              • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
                5·
                3 days ago

                History doesn’t exactly repeat. It sometimes rhymes. Just because it happened one way doesn’t mean it’ll go the exact same way again.

          • ZK686@lemmy.worldEnglish
            18·
            2 days ago

            Oh brother… here we go… I remember hearing all this Hitler bullshit during Trump’s first term…

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    53·
    3 days ago

    This is clearly insurance fraud. We all know the GOP are nazis.

    Thoughts and Prayers, etc.

          • Fedizen@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 days ago

            Conservatives always think they’re the exception to every rule and that they’re the arbiters of normality.

            Its a kind of mental gymnastics I’ll never understand and it makes them immeasurably weird (in a bad way).

      • nieminen@lemmy.world
        61·
        2 days ago

        While I don’t agree with your vote, I hope you and your whole family don’t get arrested by ICE. That said, how in the world could you support trump?

      • username@discuss.online
        21·
        2 days ago

        maybe not a Nazi, but definitely simple minded. the world isn’t such a binary. be careful around ICE, being a Mexican - or go see for yourself how they treat you, since they’re just “doing their job”

        • Fedizen@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 days ago

          Most Nazis were dupes. Many Nazis were kind and sweet in person, I’m sure. The problem is they also whole heartedly supported a genocidal psychopath with a death wish and could not distinguish lies from truth if their lives depended on it, which it did.