Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028
John Fetterman, the maverick Democratic senator who has provoked widespread anger by increasingly siding with Republicans, is to be challenged for his Pennsylvania seat by a democratic socialist candidate who is originally from Gaza.
Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, when Fetterman’s seat is up for re-election.
The move is the first sign of Fetterman’s weakened position in the party since the Democrats won back control of the Senate in last week’s US midterm elections, when the party won at least 54 of the upper chamber’s 100 seats.
It’s very funny to remember that Fetterman was considered the furthest edge of leftist politics when he ran originally
PA resident here.
We basically had to choose between Fetterman and a TV personality that essentially bought property to pretend to live here. It was never a good set of choices and while there were people being very vocal about Fetterman always being kinda sus, even before his stroke, We REALLY didn’t want OZ.
Personally, I’m constantly pissed-at and disappointed-by Fetterman, but at least he’s PA trash. not LA trash pretending. The bar is on the floor, but at least he’s our disappointment and that matters.
We REALLY didn’t want OZ.
Idk who “we” is in this story. Dr. Oz got 2.5M votes - 47% of the total.
He did better by percentage than Beto did against Greg Abbott in 2022, as a point of comparison.
Personally, I’m constantly pissed-at and disappointed-by Fetterman, but at least he’s PA trash. not LA trash pretending.
It was very funny to watch Vivek shit himself in Ohio this year (in an extremely winnable historically red state) thinking he could just carpet bag and cake walk to the governor’s mansion.
Seems like California is just a fountain of dogshit conservatives thinking they can buy offices in Midwestern state capitals.
Oh god. Being in the city I forget that much of the state is Pennsyl-tucky. 47% is way too high. Mr. Rogers would be ashamed.
LA has more people than most states, the conservatives get big mad and try to run away.
Brain damage is a hell of a drug
He was always a shill for Israel.
The brain damage simply destroyed his ability to talk about anything else
It’s called being american
Moor Ahmeds the merrier.
i mean, im sure he’s a better person than fetterman, but can’t we pick candidates that would obviously stand a better chance of winning… im sure how we can see a lot of people might not vote for someone like that. people are dumb. you are alienating like half of democratic voters with a candidate like that.
Abdul El-Sayed, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib. Such strong American names! Doing so poorly politically…
The abdul el sayed race was closer than i’d like. In this politcal environment it shouldnt have been.
Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib were in extremely blue areas. The idea of them having any chance of losing is ridiculous.
Do you think that was maybe because Democratic leaders didn’t endorse him, rampant islamaphobia, 40 million AIPAC dollars against him and his literal Democratic primary opponent endorsing the Republican?
Or just his name?
Let’s be honest here about what actually happened
honestly, take your pick. Like I said, people are dumb.
What are they going to do?
Blue — no — matter — who.
We had to do it, and they will too.
we pick candidates in primary elections.
Don’t act like the primaries don’t have their own set of problems.
you are alienating like half of democratic voters with a candidate like that.
We’ll see, I guess. Fetterman has alienated quite a big number of democratic voters as well!
fetterman is toast. im not worried about fetterman. im worried about the person on the republican ticket. this is still a battleground state.
Don’t worry. I doubt they could find a Palestinian to run against Ahmed Moor. All they have is dime a dozen nazi white boys.
can’t we pick candidates that would obviously stand a better chance of winning…
If you can win the primary, you’ve got the best chance of all candidates in the general election.
I’m sure this won’t be the only guy running against Fetterman in the primary, though.
AIPAC will spend ten trillion dollars on this race. I’m looking forward to it.
“Ahmed Moore did Oct 8 AND 9-11 and probably crucified Jesus!”
“Maverick Democrat” is a very odd way to spell “conservative loon.”
Consider that McCain, the GOP lickspittle who outflanked Bush on the right, was considered a Maverick Republican.
The prefix pretty much guarantees your politics are shit
Than you OP for including Ahmed Moor’s name on your post. A lot of these posts don’t include it, be sure to add Ahmed Moor’s name to help with his name recognition.
Also donate/volunteer if you can:
I feel like the DSA is currently the left’s tea party and I’m all for it.
Except the Tea Party was astroturfed as fuck, by big GOP donors.
This isn’t.
I know this, because I was once a Ron Paul Republican. End the Fed, Stop the Wars, that kinda thing. They co-opted that movement, at the time.
They saw the 4chan driven ‘money bombs’ timed to coincide with reporting on campaign funding level announcements, and that Paul’s campaign was literally self organizing… just a random organization sprung up, rented a fucking blimp, put Ron Paul ads on it, and flew it around the country.
This had nothing to do with Paul’s own campaign organization.
It was literally just some guys.
The GOP saw that kind of enthusiasm and then aped it, co-opted it, re-directed it, and called that the Tea Party.
Interesting. I always wondered why Ron Paul seemed so much more popular than other Libertarian candidates
So I later found out he had a troubling level of a racist past with the John Birch Society… but at the time, I didn’t know that, I was raised Republican, and I knew the wars were wrong, before I even got out of high school.
I can’t speak for everybody that was part of it, but it was basically that simple for me.
And Paul ran in the Republican primaries, not the Libertarian Party.
If we could get any major candidate in 08 to be staunchly anti-war, that was my main goal. The Libertarians obviously did not stand a chance, after seeing what had happened with Ralph Nader mostly acting as a spoiler candidate.
Paul also, being a paleoconservative, did (/does still?) genuienly believe that the abortion debate should be settled at the state level, not federally banned.
At the time, that seemed to be the most sensible position to me in general, certainly out of all the possible Republican choices for presidential nominee.
Transcript of a primary debate:
https://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm
GINGRICH: When government provides a morning-after abortion pill [under ObamaCare], you inevitably move towards tyranny.
PAUL: Actually, the morning-after pill is nothing more than a birth control pill, so if you legalize birth control pills, you really can’t separate the two. They’re all basically the same, hormonally.
Ron Paul is/was literally an OB, he was a doctor, who’d delivered 100s of babies. Compared to every single other Republican nominee… he actually knew what he was fucking talking about in regards to abortion/women’s healthcare.
He also was the first major politician to talk about the concept of “blowback” regarding 9/11 being the inevitable result of the U.S. military involvement in the middle east. He was truly anti-war to the core.
That’s really interesting! I remember the rallies and the Glen Beck “progressives” panic when Obama was elected. Trash all around!
Doublepost but:
https://www.wired.com/2007/12/ron-paul-blim-1/
Yeah this was all the way back when Twitch was still Justin.tv, and I think YouTube still owned YouTube, not Google.
https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/ron-paul-blimp-charts-unprecedented-course-007245
This was… also pre-Citizens United, so… basically you as a person couldn’t contribute over $250 without gasp regulatory scrutiny.
Oh how times have changed lol.
But yeah, they literally dumped tea bags over ‘targets’, from this ridiculous blimp. That’s what caught on and then was later reappropriated as the ‘Tea Party’.
This would have been around the same time cable news gave us ‘The Mysterious Hacker Known As 4chan’.
We had people basically photobombing pretty much just any live news cast about anything with people screaming or chanting something about Ron Paul, because cable news was barely if at all even mentioning he was even in the Republican primary.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOhRd8yUs8w
And heres Ron Paulites surrounding Sean Hannity and telling him he sucks:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU
Also just overwhelming state GOP conventions.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwHXbmaA80w
… a self organizing insurgent/guerilla political campaign, that Paul himself had very little control over. We refused to be ignored.
In the end though, the GOP ratfucked us, after Romney won the nomination.
Myself, I learn more things, over time, change my views on a lot of things… Bernie is now my guy.
The Democrats then ratfuck Bernie even harder than the Republicans ratfucked Paul.
But now, with this BluNami… maybe, maybe the will of the people can finally be enacted.
Fuck Chuck Schumer and fuck Hakeem Jefferies, and turbomegaultrafuck every MAGA fascist.
EDIT:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-pD-KCfdGKY
Oh well would you look at that, that explains a lot.
Peter Thiel, self-described “Definitely NOT the AntiChrist” played a large role in all this getting turned inside out.
Why am I not surprised?
I remember thinking at the time that Glenn Beck was just low rent, great value brand Alex Jones.
… many of my political opinions have changed since then, but not that one.
That’s a really bad and uninformed take.
Most here understand that the Tea Party was astroturfed — arguably the very first movement to fully take advantage of Citizens United v. FEC.
That said, I understand their sentiment.
There is a way to push the buttons of populism for good, and Democrats are doing so. Except this time, it’s a genuine grassroots movement, not necessarily requiring the Epstein Class of billionaires to bankroll them.
That’s why I’m saying it’s the opposite of the tea party movement. And entire party based on manufactured lies and bankrolled by the Koch’s. The entire ensamble of the “grass roots movement” was made up by weekend warriors who could barley read let alone know what the fuck 1776 was about or what’s in the constitution. I could understand their sentiment if they said it was the opposite of what the tea party was.
Doesn’t seem that black-and-white to me. The movement was catalyzed by the likes of the Koch Brothers, but it did ultimately become somewhat self-sustaining. Tea Party did become maga after all. Both represent populist movements relative to their end of the political spectrum, which means they can’t really be opposite in this respect.
That doesn’t mean they are equidistant from truth in a false equivalence fallacy; both are wrought from a dissatisfaction with the status-quo and corruption in Washington (“Drain the Swamp”). It’s just that one is Left, and one is wrong in their approach to the solutions.
Though I get that we don’t want to necessarily associate such a movement at all with the Tea Party from a marketing standpoint, as that’s often a comparison made in bad faith in corporate media.
Side note, but my what Occupy Wall Street could’ve become had it had the same sort of catalysts and party-backing…
Occupy could have changed the course of the world is Dems had sacked up and not been corporate shills.
The “movement” wasn’t just catalyzed by the Koch’s it was manufactured and bankrolled. It was “self sustaining” until the money ran out and Donald Trump appeared on the scene and mutated the whole thing into the murder hate treason cult that started to attract people hithrto had nothing to do with politics until the tea party turned into the kill and imprisons people I don’t like because they are different and I’m an idiot party which was really the tag line all along; violent xenophobia and racism. I remember it’s beginning and transformation into maga. And throughout the entire way it has been propped up by prominent monied business leaders the entire way through. It literally shares nothing in common with the progressive movement and comparing the two as like with like is not only disingenuous but revisionist.
I was pretty involved in my local city’s protest on this and I mostly agree with respect to Occupy. I think they were so shy and naive; Obama’s tepid approval was the best they got, but even back then we know who controlled the airwaves — especially two years post-CU decision. Democrats felt like they were in a good spot and sealed the deal for years to come and we just had to “be patient,” but you know how that went… Pissed me off. No use of bully pulpit to pressure from the top left right-wing media to do its thing and eviscerate the movement.
Worth noting that Trump was there since the early days of the Tea Party; I remember arguing with Tea Party members about how Trump was right about Obama’s birth certificate. He was an enormous catalyst to that conspiracy theory bullshit as well. They were always the same people sadly.
I think we’re talking past each other slightly on this. Nobody – literally nobody – disputes that Tea Party platform is polar-opposite to the demands of even SocDems let alone DemSocs; we’re just stating that the astroturfing worked because it tapped into a dried kindling already yearning for ignition. Catalysts aside; platform aside, both are populist movements who reshaped the broader party and suppressed moderates in their own party. Where Tea Party moved Republicans right, DSA can move Democrats Left. That’s pretty much where the similarities begin and end I’ll agree.
I remember the correspondents dinner or whatever it was where he clowned Donald Trump. I was much much younger then but it was like gangs of suburban dads roaming around with guns and total psychopaths. I don’t know if I would call it a populist movement because the whole thing was, in my opinion, and fever backlash to a president being black. I men the party just didn’t make any fucking sense.
For the love of fuck we just had the election. Not even settled everywhere. And now we look to the next one.
The opposition has 0 intention of playing nice and by the books, for the love of fuck.
Do. Not. Relent.
When people aren’t taking millions from the rich they need small dollar donations and time to get their name out there. AIPAC will be spending millions to squash a Palestinian candidate just like they did with Kat Abughazaleh.
This guy needs to gather volunteers and money to get out to people on the street, knocking on doors, telling people directly, building relationships so two years from now they vote for their friendly democratic candidate that wants to make their life better not drop better bombs on Gaza and Iran like Fetter-traitor wants to do.
This is the way, even if exhausting for some unfortunately. As I’ve said elsewhere 2028 Democratic Primaries officially kick off the moment polls close at midterms.
For any viable challenger to an incumbent with the backing of foreign and domestic mega-donors, it’s important to hit the ground running and seize on this momentum right out of the gate!
Personally, this makes me very excited!
Yes, thst what should be done
OMG. This would be an epic “fuck you” to AIPAC.
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Fetterman is senator of Pennsylvania.
Worst part about Fetterman is that it’s not entirely clear if his stroke made him Republican or just broke his brain enough to make him go mask off and more extreme with his “not Republican” actual beliefs.
For about 1.5 years after the stroke, Fetterman’s voting record was one of the bluest in the senate. If anything, it was kind of weird how a guy who campaigned on being different from the usual corporate democrats toed the party line so well.
The narrative that his stroke turned hin conservative is fun, but does not hold up under scrutiny. I think AIPAC just got to him.
LobbyingBribe money does funny things to people.Nah, he was always like that. Some More News on the “switch” (being compared to Dr Oz let him ride a progressive wave without having done anything to earn it)
I replied to someone else with details:
I do tend to agree that he was more left before the stroke, or at least more covert, though bluest in the Senate during a period of no substantive control really doesn’t mean much. I’m the best runner when nobody else shows up to the race because there’s no reward, too.
This is the talking-point we always heard with Kamala Harris and how she was “More progressive than Bernie Sanders” lol. Or how Sinema was progressive… Until she was actually the deciding vote on something as pivotal as gutting the filibuster.
The narrative that his stroke turned hin conservative is fun, but does not hold up under scrutiny.
Genuinely curious, why?
Fetterman had his stroke in 2022. He took his Senate office in 2023.
https://fettermanvoting.com/voting-record/
In 2023, he broke from the DNC on 5 votes. In 2024, he broke from the DNC on just 2 votes. In January of 2025 alone, he broke from the DNC 12 times. In just 7 days from 1/20/25-1/27/25 he doubled the number of party break votes. He has 167 party break votes total, with 7 being in 2023-2024 and 160 being in 2025-2026.
That still leaves the possibility: was the DNC perhaps more conservative in 2023-2024 than it was in 2025-2026?
This site tracks “progressive” votes. . According to this, he had:
- 2023: 200/207 Progressive Votes 96.6%
- 2024: 210/230 Progressive Votes 91.3%
- 2025: 454/594 Progressive Votes 76.4%
- 2026: 161/224 Progressive Votes 71.9%
Despite what his confused claims about whether he ever ran as a Progressive or not, he was effectively one of the most progressive members of the senate for his first 2 years in office, which were after the stroke. You can see he took an extended absence in July 2024 which is mostly white (neutral) evaluation. Then he took another leave of absence in November 2024 which has a mixture of white and red, meaning that he missed several close votes where he failed to help a progressive cause. Once he comes back, we see a lot more red in November-December 2024. If I was conspiratorially inclined, I would be interested in where he went, who he talked to, and what money went where during those two absences.
That’s what I mean when I say that the narrative about the stroke does not hold up to scrutiny. He was one of the most progressive senators in the building for 2 years after his stroke.
I respect you bringing substance to this discussion. Upon review I’m personally not all impressed about how Fetterman is shown to be progressive this way simply by relative comparison to the rest of the generally highly-conservative Senate. Even if these were fruitful votes (most honestly weren’t for aforementioned reasons of a divided Congress and non supermajority), I’d be the tallest person in the room with children, but that doesn’t make me tall, right? Finally, we unfortunately cannot contrast with an unanswerable counterfactual that is: Would he have been more progressive if he didn’t have the stroke? Because ultimately there are many other variables from year to year that cannot be fully adjusted for.
I thus prefer to look at Fetterman through the lens of shifted trailblazing policy stances and divisive topics pre and post-stroke:
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Fetterman moved from once referring to himself as a “progressive champion” and “We have started a progressive movement here in Pennsylvania” — Again, these Pre-stroke. Only later in 2023 did he change his tune.
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Since 2023, Fetterman suddenly became much more staunchly anti-immigrant and parroting of Republican Border policy talking-points. His position has heavily shifted on ICE, once being much more strongly opposed to ICE. Contrast, “law-abiding citizens seeking a better life” to Biden “Bungling” and “destroying” the border by late 2023.
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Pre-stroke, Fetterman once strongly supported Single-payer Medicare For All, but now no longer does post-stroke.
It seems he has long been supportive of Israel, which in the backdrop of Charlottesville and genuine antisemitism of the right through the 2010s, combined with peak power of AIPAC and a large Jewish cohort in PA, I can somewhat understand. I can further imagine that his stroke could have reduced his ability to see nuance following O7 and still resorting to default programming of, “antisemitism bad!”
Maybe my definition of progressive or left-leaning is different, but I find it hard to call anyone a progressive whatsoever who has shifted and actively holds regressive positions on that which the broader progressive coalition fully promote.
Wasn’t there a whole mainstream media report on him having an AIPAC handler who whispered in his ears 24/7? I thought that had cleared the air about the reason for the switch in people’s minds but I guess not.
Edit: The Man Who Explains Israel to John Fetterman - How a little-known writer became one of the senator’s closest confidants.
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He supports a nationwide billionaire tax. Damn.
Good. Quasimodo needs to go. Dumb fuck can’t be bothered to come into work and should be sent packing.
Quasimodo
Don’t do big Quas like that, he doesn’t deserve to be compared to this shit stain.
big Quas
You love to see it. I’d vote for him if I could.
Holy shit, is our reality being generated by AI and/or The Onion these days?
I’m honestly curious what about this post would make you say this? Why is this comment so highly upvoted, what does it even mean in this context?
Because they’re Palestinian? What’s the satire angle here?
You do know that the Onion is meant to be funny, right?
Because this almost sounds like it’s made up. Democrat gets elected, has a stroke, turns rather right wing on some issues. Mostly pisses off a lot of the Democrats, even if he votes with them, mostly.
He completely misread the room on Israel/Gaza, is not nearly left enough overall, and he’ll be challenged by a socialist who is also Palestinian?
This sounds like something the Onion would have written as a reaction to Fetterman and to also provide nightmare fuel for the pearl-clutching wingers / “independents” / reactionary centrists.
I feel more and more like Captain Picard made the ultimate sacrifice and Q snapped his fingers, putting us back on a good timeline.
I think it depends on how you handle the helium.
What is this framing? Am I out of touch? There’s not challenge here, Fetterman is already done. His position was weakened the moment he decided to betray his constituents. Even his own staff hate him. All he has is his current seat and when it comes to re-election he’s going to bomb out regardless of who he goes up against. I think it’s great that Ahmed Moor is going to run but his fight isn’t going to be with Fetterman. There’s a small chance the establishment dems realize they need to work with the socialists to get anything done but I doubt that’ll happen so the fight will be with whomever the establishment puts in to replace Fetterman.
We understand that Fetterman’s rep is over, but that isn’t the problem. His replacement by another Dem is not assured. He barely won his seat, remember? We need to replace him in the primary with a great candidate who can beat a post-Midterm Republican, who will almost certainly NOT be promoting MAGA views, thus making him a challenging candidate.
Fetterman’s seat is going to be a ferocious battle.
A great candidate who can beat a post-Midterm Republican
Unfortunately, for the Democrats this means a right wing establishment Dem like Fetterman. In reality, this means a socialist who runs on working class policies.
I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m disagreeing with the framing in the article that implies Fetterman is somehow in the race (how else are you going challenge him?) when in reality he has no shot at running again.
Surely his name will be on primary ballots as the incumbent if he chooses to run again. He can decide and file as a Democrat like anybody else who can fill out a form and write a small check to the elections office.
The primary …
The thing you can’t think of is the primary…
You want to explain what exactly can’t I think of?
I’m disagreeing with the framing in the article that implies Fetterman is somehow in the race (how else are you going challenge him?) when in reality he has no shot at running again.
The answer to the bolded question is: he will challenge him in the Dem primary
All he has is his current seat and when it comes to re-election he’s going to bomb out regardless of who he goes up against.
Just because his name will be on the ballot doesn’t mean he has a chance to win. A challenge implies a failure state. There is no challenging Fetterman because there’s no failure state to the challenge because Fetterman fails all on his own.
This past election a number of centrists vocalized such a disdain for the left that they would rather a republican win than have a progressive win.
While he’s not well liked amongst his peers, Israel loves him so that might be enough to keep him in.
It will not be easy.
