• NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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    The conservative sub was malding over this.

    Like, was he even known for his politics? I knew him as a weird actor whose primary vehicle for comedy was just being a weird oddball. They really will just defend any sex criminal?

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      He started being very US politics on his podcast for a bit and then he switched over to Christianity and conservative grift.

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        I guess I just missed all that. I would see a random clip from him on Fox here and there but didn’t realize he was “known” for politics

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    I saw a Facebook story about his convictions and there were so many people in the comments saying he is just being silenced for his views and he’s an innocent man being done wrong by attention seekers.

    Facebook is such a bin fire sometimes…

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      Jeez. I was about to say the opposite, that he fits the conservative xtian stereotype pretty well. But both statements look correct to me.

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        I don’t remember very well right now but I think when I used to watch him in conversations from like 15 years ago I’m pretty sure he was doing the enlightened atheist stuff. At the very least I’m almost certain his philosophy ramblings never mentioned god, it would’ve turned me off him even way back then.

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          He was!!! Then the whole space turned against because of the rape stuff came out. Turns out people who think about morality don’t wanna follow a rapist.

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      Never did. I never understood why one would. They are just people. It’s crazy.

  • Rhonda Sandtits@lemmy.sdf.org
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    The British prison system currently has a huge problem with women who work as guards in mens prisons fucking the inmates.

    How long until we see headlines about Russell Brand fucking multiple multiple prison guards and receiving preferential treatment?

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    If you’re feeling upset about the length of the sentence, think about where you were ten years ago and you’ll quickly realize that ten years go by very slowly. That’s a huge chunk of life when you really think about it. It’s only the number itself that looks small

    There’s something to say about the fact he will be only 61 when he gets out, though. It does give one anxiety, doesn’t it? It’s not like he’ll be old and frail

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        This punishment is for one count of rape and three of sexual assault. There were two other rape charges he was cleared of. I assume he would have gotten the maximum sentence otherwise.

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          That’s not really how sentencing works. He’d have been sentenced for three counts, but wouldn’t get the maximum for each unless they were extreme, talking busting into houses, beatings, abductions, ultra violence etc.

          The sentencing guidelines for the category of rape Brand was convicted of are 6-9yrs or 9-13yrs, depending on category.

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      Yes but no. 10 years should be the absolute minimum in a “singular” rape charge. But come on, to rape 7 women (that we got proof of) & only do 10 years is blasphemous.

      • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
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        Well that’s the thing. He wasn’t convicted of seven counts of rape. This punishment is for one count of rape and three of sexual assault. There were two other rape charges he was cleared of.

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          Yes but in peoples eyes the accusation is enough and they never follow up past the big headline.

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            Uhhh, pretty sure most people would consider one rape conviction a pretty goddamn big deal so it’s arguing semantics about the rest.

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    Good, one more rapey, creepy, rich cunt not walking the streets. Now if only the US would start doing the same things to our rich, rapey cunts. We should start with the orange molester in chief.

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    This guy wasn’t already a convicted sex offender? This just now happened!?

    Bro, I’m mandela effecting hard right now lmao.

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      Honestly 10 years feels like roughly the right amount of time, assuming it’s actually 10 years in prison and not 18 months in a celebrity daycamp.

      People change a lot in prison. Even a year or two. 10 years of prison later he will be a very very very different person, and I don’t think an additional 5+ years would really make much of a difference.

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        I was reading that in the UK this translates to 5 years before being eligible for parole.

        Which is still a lot for someone who is used to the lifestyle / comfort that Brand had.

        I personally feel like 10 full years in prison isn’t enough, but I’m not a judge. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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          The judge stated a minimum term of 7 years before he can apply for release on licence. He will be on the sex offenders register for life, forever having to report his whereabouts, every time he moves address etc.

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          I really just goes to the “Is prison a punishment, a rehabilitation system, or a deterrence”. If someone isn’t rehabilitated after 10 years, then they also won’t be after 20 (IMO). And there are lots of studies that show lengthy sentences don’t really function as a deterrence due to human brains poorly conceptualizing 5 vs 10 vs 15 vs 20 years. At some point it’s just “A long time in jail” and advocating for 10 vs 20 years doesn’t benefit the deterrence aspect. Also, your average violent criminal isn’t thinking “Well I WOULD rape her if it was only 5 years, but since it will be 10, I won’t”

          So then it’s just about punishment. And 10 years in jail is a very very intense punishment. Forced to choose, I would take a LOT of other punishments to not have to spend the next 10 years in jail which, for what it’s worth, often leads to rape from others in the prison.

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            So then it’s just about punishment.

            Well, no. It’s mainly about keeping the public safe from his continuing predations.

            Amazing you left that out, when not being free to roam and hurt others is the primary issue survivors care about, and they ALL sleep better when their attacker is behind bars. How is that benefit to society even missing?

            I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally, but from the moment of remand forward, the number of women he will be able to rape drops immediately from unlimited to pretty much zero.

            • NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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              Yeah that’s a fair point. No point in being a dick about it though.

              I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally

              So, if there was a magic wand that made every rape convict magically incapable of sexual violence, you would be ok with them being set free with no time served?

              • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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                That’s a nonsensical equivalence. Saying I don’t care about what happens to Brand personally != not caring about his personal effect on other individuals or society. That I do, and specifically how, I have already made clear.

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            From working in some prisons not in America the rwpe isn’t really a thing anymore. There are enough willing people.

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              According to this

              The survey of 27,541 state and federal inmates found that some 4.1 percent of adult prison inmates reported being sexually victimized in state and federal prisons during the prior 12 months

              So yeah still quite common. At least in American federal prisons.

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        I was more meaning that there are other cases coming. But yeah, the sentence seems… sentencing is difficult. Can any time truly make up for violent crimes? But yet there must be serious consequences.

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      There’s already two more women who have come forward, and more are being encouraged to as well, so you got this right

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        yeah, exactly what I was meaning to reference. I mean, who knows, maybe these were the only incidents and he’s completely innocent of all the others.

        …seems extremely unlikely, though

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      I’m surprised it is that much. I know someone who went down for rape with someone under age and sexual misconduct with someone else underage and he got 6 years. Probably serve 4 years I guess, for permanently destroying two peoples’ lives. Ridiculous.

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    “Under English law, the maximum sentence for rape is life imprisonment, and 10 years for one count of sexual assault, according to Britain’s sentencing council.”

    This guy got basically sentenced for one + half a year of the 3 assaults and not caunting the 1 rape

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          It will be interesting to see how he goes.

          I have found that, nowadays if media exposure gets taken away, a lot of people tend to chill out and drift more left leaning. Right leaning thinking for many tends to require constant nudging to keep people in that camp. So being isolated from that feed might do him some good. It will at least do the world some good.

          I’m not saying, “take away the media and all is well” but there is a section of society that is heavily swayed by it.

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      Those are maximum sentences for Category 1 though, and would be given for extreme cases.

      It looks like Brand was sentenced on a Category 2 rape, which has a starting point of 10y custody.