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    “But shit I was pretty sure this truck was male!” - anonymous Transformer fan from Texas

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    The “trans propaganda” remembers me whenever a background gay character was “gay agenda” or whatever, the same moral panicking just shifting focus but same bs overall

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        That seems to be a transformation, but of a lesser degree.

        A cisformer should be a car that distinctly retains its form as a car. It would be very difficult to change the form of such a car, meaning it would not have much scrap value.

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        I got to say, a cisformer would be pretty convenient to own. It spends most of its time as a small fuel efficient sedan. But when it cisforms, its now a pickup truck capable of hauling a heavy load or towing a large trailer. That would be amazing!

        If anyone objects to me owning a sentient being, interpret the ownership as a sub/dom thing.

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    “Transformers is teaching children about acceptance.”

    MAGA: Burn it all down.

    “The president is a literally criminally charged sexual predator with an undeniable and for some reason heavily secretive relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, a child sex trafficker.”

    MAGA: shrugs

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    Stop giving Nazis attention.

    Boomers that are serious fans of the series know Transformers had the entire squad of queer and genders characters, all the way since first comic.
    Literally Orion Pax & Megatron were they first gay couple. Until blatantly elections got in the way. Megatron is right, oppressors need to be challenged at every step.
    3 questions to powerful institutions by Megatron — 2005 IDW continuity The Transformers 2011 Issue #23 Chaos Theory Part 2漫画Wiki

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      I respectfully disagree about giving Nazi’s attention.

      You should pay attention long enough to them to punch them in the face, or take a bat to their knees. And it’s very important that you pay them attention when aiming a gun at them, as you don’t want to hit innocent bystanders.

      Though those are the only exceptions I can think of, everything else you’re spot on about.

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          Going to say no to that, but not because I disagree with the content but because today is a day where getting enough dopamine is difficult. I will however save it and hope it doesn’t get doomboxxed so I can enjoy the content when I’m capable of giving it the attention it deserves.

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            perfectly comprehendable. ThoughtSlime took a lot of work to prepare this video essay, so please take the time to take notes on it. You‘ll find out much more than you anticipated. I know I did.

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      Point taken; but on the other hand, we can’t ignore them to death, can we? Like you said, oppressors need to be challenged at every step. I think there’s a difference between clapping back at some chud’s “gotcha” moment and allowing them into a space for debate.

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        The video addresses this directly.
        Challenging oppression means going out of our comfort, organizing, and directly acting. The Malaysian is already wanted in Malaysia, Malaysian have that challenged.

        Now, when is the Twitter Takedown?
        If we are to apply the thesis in Transformers & ThoughtSlime, X Corp Headquarters needs some renovations.

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            You will just be another person mad that literally is used for emphasis, or can even mean figuratively. Language isn’t static.

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            I think a better analogy is how older people were blaming stuff done by teens on “millennials” well into the late 2010s and even early 2020s when even the youngest millennials were well into their 20s.

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              Boomer if you’re born in the 20th century, millennial if you’re born around the 21st century. That seems to be how these terms are evolving.

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              “Kids these days” has been a complaint from older generations for as long as there’s been language.

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            Well it’s not as though there’s much that can really stop you, so yes.

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            Yes, whether or not that means it becomes a popular facet of actual language is a whole different thing though, and that’s the part your are ignoring, the broad change in how words are used.

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              As much as I detest this pointless inter-generational conflict and dumb labels, if you start calling Gen X ‘Boomers’ don’t be surprised when you get pushback. If anything, Gen X has the biggest grudge against the baby boomers out of all. Those fuckers were our parents, and they sold us a lie.

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                  & @almacca@aussie.zone you’re in c/196 you can be pissed at your parents, and accept language lives. There’s a reason my wife religiously says “get with the times boomer!”

                  If you’re not keep up with your kid’s dialect, diction, language, issues, concerns, politics, acts, and feelings, you’re not really interested in making changes your parents deceived you to make. Generational abuse stops with us. and if kids want to call us boomers, so be it. It’s their language, their future, their lives.

                  I just hope they can welcome me too in the wonders they’ll achieve. If not, so be it too. I did what I could with what I knew. A home in me they have.

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        It was implied, as they were friends during the Cybertron war. After MoL fell to Orion, their friendship extremely soured.

        do robots (in disguise) even love?

        This isn’t even a worthwhile question. They are more capable than love than meets the eye.

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        I’m not a deep fan of Transformers, but I heard of a time when a transformer carried a human fetus in their robo-womb, so anything is possible.

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      In what continuity were Orion and Megatron any more than friends? In the '84 cartoon Orion has a girlfriend named Ariel who becomes Elita-1 at the same time Orion becomes Prime. He doesn’t seem to have even met Megatron yet. And I’m not sure the original comics even cover Optimus before he was Prime.

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        This was how I remember it too, but it’s been a while since I read the comics and watched the show. They used to basically be brothers. I don’t remember any implication either. But given how many decades it’s been, and my age at the time, I would have likely missed it. That being said, I looked through the TFWiki link the parent comment provided and didn’t see anything about them being more than friends.

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        There was a comic series were Orion was a pathological serial killer, and that is how Megatron befriend Pax, “enemy of my enemy.” Ariel dies in this one. I am not a fan of the series, so forgive me for not recalling the name of the retcon continuity.

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    Well, I would say not to go out of their way to provoke them, but I latelly feel no empathy for those folks.

    Get it in their faces! Say you are making their kids trans.

    We need to assert our dominance here!

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    Hasn’t seen this one yet. The bots seem a bit undertextured compared to the humans from the stills ive seen. Not a fan of that style.

    Honestly it would make more sense if they all went by neutral pronouns. Kinda odd that a species with, as far as I’ve seen, a very skewed gender ratio would have any concept of male/female.

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      This particular set of organics are not Transformers, they are instead Terrans. So it makes more sense to have more genders and pronouns than what Cybertron offered. But at the least this series was never shy to show genders do not equate sex.
      Something a failed Malaysian runaway detests.

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        I guess, it’s just odd to me that they’ve had a binary system despite not being split down the middle. There’s probably ways to justify it though.

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          Nonono, cybertron had enby characters. It just it makes more sense on Earth to have more genders, pronouns, and expressions than a war ridden Cybertron. From lore, our little planet is certainly more diverse.

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        3d TV animation has never really looked right to me. Like, most of the time it’s passable, but it still looks very artificial in many shows.

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            I liked the mix they did with Cybertron (the one with the cyber keys. God this show is confusing to talk about.), but that might be nostalgia talking.

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                It’s cool. Not for everyone though. Lots of Super Sentai style fights and transformations. I really like that they have other planets with native bots on them.

                It’s teeechnically a sequel to the two preceding shows, but it’s essentially a completely separate series. Unicron trilogy was weird.

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        Not sure if this is exactly what you’re talking about, but I remember Bionicle had exactly 1/6th of the population be female because the demographics were projected to be that. Such a weird way to do it given that most people who picked up those toys probably didn’t bother with the story, and there wasn’t really a way to tell they were female without reading up on it.

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          Wow I never knew this-

          Though that 1/6 might also have been just a coincidence initially, in many iterations Bionicle had six Toas and evil bionicles each, which meant one token female between the six.

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            That’s probably closer to the truth. It would be odd for a bunch of old dudes to think a sixth of the audience for action figures would be girls, but that’s just what I was told.