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“Made without AI”
The sad irony is that the banning of AI makes the projects more valuable to those training AI.
I’ve been thinking about this problem a lot lately.
We’ve all heard of Nightshade, which modifies images in a way meant to poison AI scrapers without being perceptible to humans… but doing something similar with code is a LOT harder.
Really curious if anyone else has been working in this space and has any thoughts to share.
Probably no way to do something like that and be imperceptible to humans. Could probably find ways to mangle variable names adversarially, but that would also make it harder for humans. The best thing would probably be trying to do reliable bot detection, then serve the bots adversarially constructed text that *looks" plausible, but is nonsense/broken. I’ve heard about “tar pits” and “markov tarpits;” I don’t know if they try to make the content look legitimate and/or adverserially construct the content to try to maximize damage during training.
Tar pits are cool, but you can’t really put one in front of your codebase when you have it publicly hosted in GitHub or Codeberg or similar.
There are a lot of cool ways you can fuck up code for an LLM and still have it compile just fine… but the problem is that this also makes the codebase a complete nightmare for humans to work on. The real trick is to find a way to make the obfuscation reversible… but in a way that only a human can reverse it. That’s the hard problem, and I’m not sure it’s solvable.
Markov-chain generated comments?
Where can people find the source code to this website?
The website is using https://textpattern.com/about/ - but I’d like to make the source open, any tips on how I can upload the source to something like codeberg.org would be appreciated, as I havn’t been able to figure out how to do that yet.
I’d rebuild the site in Hugo or some other static site that’s popular on codeberg.
I like sites like this. I’m always worried that they can be used by LLMs as a resource for scraping non-slop content.
What are the rules to be allowed on the list?
What if you just use AI as manual where you can lookup stuff?
Lately when I write code, I use AI as a tool to help me find functions and how to use them, I may ask GPT or Copilot something like this:
How do I use HTML and CSS to create and style a progress bar to look like the progress bars in Ubuntu 9.04?
that gets me close enough to test and figure out exactly what I want on my own.
Would that be a breach of the rules of the website?
I don’t have a project to upload there, but I find it interesting to figure out exactly where the line is drawn
This website is really “no AI use at all”, and part of that is to encourage learning, working slowly and carefully. There are ways to obtain similar information without the use of AI, and often times it can lead you to more resourceful information that you can learn from, instead of a ‘quick and easy’ answer just to get the job done.
Imagine making hating ai your entire personality.
Imagine going out of your way to visit a community called “Fuck AI” just to complain that they don’t like AI
that would be based as fuck, I’d subscribe to that guy
Imagine being so aware of social issues that you take a position on one 🤷
Just out of curiosity, whats the ML in StuartML stand for?
ml is initials of the rest of my name, ive used the screen name for a very long time
TY, I respect that
Markup Language
And what does the StuartML stand for in the name fartsparkles?
It’s a regional dialect, mostly glitter.
Fake Communist.
