• mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de
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    14 days ago

    Idk I mean fuck Israel and all but isn’t Hamas an Islamic organization that likely would largely be in favor of killing lesbians

    Edit: Thanks to everyone who provided patient and educative responses. I seem to have been uninformed on this front to some extent. I do still believe that Islam is intrinsically homophobic, but of course I understand not all Muslims are such strict adherents, same as Christians run the gamut on this matter. But I assumed Hamas was of the more strict adherents, when I don’t know that for sure.

    • woodenghost [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      16 days ago

      Hamas is saving queer lives by hindering the total annihilation of Palestinians through the ongoing genocide. And under great sacrifices.

      Weaponizing the partially unclear legal status of queer people in Palestine is part of propaganda efforts to pinkwash the genocide: Rainbow genocide: How Israel uses ‘pinkwashing’ to terrorize Palestinians.

      The Islamic Resistance Movement often abbreviated as Hamas officially opposes Al-Qaeda and Jihadism. They should not be confused with IS / ISIS, which Hamas fought successfully, despite Israel funding these real Islamist in Palestine to further the genocide.

      • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        16 days ago

        rainbow imperialism is having its cake and eating it too, as the israelis blackmail gay Palestinians and i’m sure the efforts to undermine Burkina Faso are using that wedge as well.

        the GDR figured this out before the “west” did and it’s a shame our support must be critical.

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      16 days ago

      Don’t fall for the zionists sowing divisions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwPECzyeG4 solidarity with the oppressed means solidarity with their struggle to self-determination. LGBTQ+ people being weaponised against their countries and having LGBTQ+ westerners support imperialist aggression against their countries makes people less likely to show tolerance and understanding, not more.

      I love my muslim comrades.

      edit: completely forgot the most salient thing: I don’t believe killing gay people is something Hamas did or does. I don’t know much about it tbh so feel free to post something if you know something. But weaponising Islam against homosexual people is not really a thing until the british start colonising west asia.

    • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      16 days ago

      Please speak to some muslim people for once in your life. Please, I really mean this, have your first ever conversation with some muslims as real human beings instead of cartoons in your head.

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      16 days ago

      I think that at some point recently that has been what leadership in Hezbollah said about its own policies, but in Gaza (as far as I’ve been able to find) it is not actually criminalized, but queer people also don’t have any sort of protection as social minorities and there’s obviously a lot of social stigma among some groups.

      I don’t really see how one gets to “Hamas would be largely in favor of killing lesbians” except by accepting the racialized propaganda spread by Israel and its Zionist supporters that conflates Hamas with groups like ISIS. Maybe I’m wrong, I’m certainly not an expert on the issue, but the closest thing I saw to that had to do with Palestinians forming (or trying to form) relationships with IDF soldiers, which I think we can agree has a little more to it.

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      16 days ago

      As if Israel triple checked who they bomb, making sure it’s not a queer person they’re about to kill

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      16 days ago

      Hamas isn’t one organization. It’s a collection of multiple groups with different views and goals. Some are Islamic, some are Christian, some are non-religious and even communist. Their shared goals are combating colonialism and imperialism.

      While queer people are mostly viewed negatively in Gaza and The West Bank (the latter have more progressive views) there is very little violence against them compared to other countries in the region or even the West. There is still harm being done to them but also can’t be tied to any particular group.