• Critics argue it could lead to lethal vigilante actions against women and medical staff.

    What do you mean argue? I literally don’t see any other interpretation. Even if you try to see it from the other point of view how else could you perceive this?

    • critics argue that legalizing lethal vigilante actions against women and medical staff could lead to lethal vigilante actions against women and medical staff. but who knows? what does it mean to “know” something? can anybody really know anything?

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      Law enforcement as opposed to vigilantes, maybe? So the intended outcome is cops killing pregnant women or medical staff but critics argue random right-wing lunatics might also do it.

      • The combined effect is unambiguous. If a fertilised egg is legally a person under the state constitution, then abortion becomes first-degree murder. The defence-of-others clause, granting the right to deadly force, would then apply to anyone claiming to act on behalf of that fertilised egg.

        Legal scholars and opponents of the bill have described this as an implicit authorisation of lethal vigilante action against anyone involved in a termination, including the woman herself, a doctor, or clinic staff.

        The bill’s scope also extends beyond surgical abortion. Some forms of emergency contraception, such as Plan B and certain intrauterine devices, can prevent a fertilised egg from implanting in the uterus. Under this bill’s definition, that too would constitute first-degree murder.

        A quick scan showed me the article is pretty good. Looks like that phrasing was setting up a paragraph about the opinions of legal experts.

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    NC Republicans always go sicko mode because half the shit they propose is immediately blocked by Roy Cooper.

    Edit: This dude has always been a crank and this will go nowhere. It’s also total nonsense, since “using lethal force to prevent an abortion” is an abortion. And using lethal force after an abortion doesn’t prevent one.

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      yeah, but it does hurt the woman, and the point of all this anti-abortion nonsense has always been to hurt women. the cruelty is the point.

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        I know, all I’m saying is that this will be thrown out almost immediately. He’s tried this before and even the Republicans laugh him out of the room.

        They will probably end up doing something, but they’ll do something that’s more clinical and enforceable. Something like withholding aid from women who get abortions, or criminal charges for “aiding and abetting”.

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      It’s also total nonsense, since “using lethal force to prevent an abortion” is an abortion. And using lethal force after an abortion doesn’t prevent one.

      The way that the bill is written seems like it is meant to make it legal to kill doctors who perform abortions. Also Roy Cooper stopped being the Governor in January 2025. The current Governor is Josh Stein. Roy Cooper is running to be a Senator for NC this year, also a Zionists.

      https://webservices.ncleg.gov/ViewBillDocument/2025/9070/0/DRH10579-NJy-55

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        So if I say I thought someone was on their way to commit an abortion, I can use that as a defense? It’s reasonable, their cell phone looked like a package of mifepristone

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        Also Roy Cooper stopped being the Governor in January 2025. The current Governor is Josh Stein.

        My bad, they’re so indistinguishable that I forgot.

        This is also definitely terrible, but NC/SC Republicans have always been a totally different breed. NC in particular has some really virulent Republicans due to the swing state status and ridiculous gerrymandering that gives a few religious enclaves as much power as the two largest cities combined.

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    Nazi.world and other large instance mods dancing naked around their giant wall street bull, lighted by a bonfire, as they pass the chalice of blood and wafers made from baby guts, to celebrate their unholy work.

    • Yes, make it a death sentence and less women will want it they feel. Also because Americans are desensitized to random acts of murder it won’t spur any kind of movement like arresting, trying, imprisoning and through a slow appeals process trying to execute women would inevitably do.

      It’s never been about the fetus, it’s about punishing and controlling women. And in this case it allows vigilantes to murder doctors and nurses providing these services. They may become less willing to do so if anti-abortion groups start setting up stings where they straight up execute them when they show up. Same with pharmacies that dispense plan B, you get a pregnant anti-choicer woman to come in to buy it, you have your vigilante show up and shoot the pharmacist as they take money for it to “defend” the fetus, consequently most pharmacists that value their lives begin to increasingly refuse to dispense it. Truly vile.