Probably a flareup of our collective “OH SHIT ANOTHER PANDEMIC” reflex that everyone born before 2017 will have until they die now

The lackluster COVID response has had me ready for anything to pop off for ages. COVID round X, big seasonal flu, swine flu, bird flu, monkeypox, measles… The neoliberal capitalists that run the world are speedrunning multiple apocalypsi and can just run for their bunkers. We are living under a death cult that actively wants the proles to die off so they can have the future to themselves.

You seen the video of that one Cruise ship influencer on board who’s crying and using therapy-language to demand being let back on shore? I don’t even know what words to describe that mindset.
And apparently they are being let back on shore? Instead of kept on the floating quarantine vessel? Absolutely demented

These things usually fizzle out, and this was caught extremely early, with only one confirmed human to human transmission so far.

Even if it does become another pandemic, you have months before you need to care. Think about how long there was between December 2019 and covid first affecting you. If it’s on the way to being another pandemic, it will become very, very obvious during that time.

The cruise industry should be banned of course.

Its freaky for sure but too soon to panic. I would watch it closely and reassess in a couple of weeks. If it starts ramping up it’ll leak on social media. I think if we see multiple clusters it’ll be time to panic. There was a lady that traveled on a flight to joburg that collapsed on arrival. If this thing is bad we will know real quick based on what happens to the people that were on that plane.

You could crosspost in c/doomer. This comm has 1k subscribers.

Thoughts?

None yet. I know it’s confirmed human-to-human but I haven’t googled. At the top of the hour I’ll see if CNN or MS NOW has mentioned it. I’m nearly 100% certain they won’t. A few deaths on a cruise ship isn’t titillating enough for them. It’s sensationalism or nothing.

Edit 1. I failed to do my assignment at the top of the hour. I got distracted by this Youtube vid of an odd British children’s book: The Old Woman and her Pig by Ladybird Books.

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Edit 2. If the info in this 11 post Bluesky thread is accurate - I’m not concerned.

11/ Bottom line: This is not Covid-19. This is a serious and very unique outbreak that doesn’t have a playbook. Things are moving quickly but this virus is acting like we expect it to. The W.H.O says this is still a low risk situation. I’ll be back with an update as this evolves.

https://skywriter.blue/@ylepidemiologist.bsky.social/3ml7hcow55c2x

I don’t think it’s gonna be a pandemic, yet… The sicker and more vulnerable folks get, the closer to the edge we get of another one though.

The difference of course being that hantavirus has confirmed human-to-human transmission, bird flu never did.

Didn’t have sustained h2h transmission. The cdc had a number of h2h cases but nothing was able to reach epidemic levels. As I understand it h5n1 human to human outbreak is inevitable, but not imminent. Or at least as of last year. Who knows where things are at now with everything hidden from us.

Speaking of, monkeypox is still out there but doesn’t show in wastewater too well. So that’s another big question mark.

pretty awesome stuff, used to be pretty hard to get it due to the infection vector, now we’ve got some grains of suspected human-human transmissions! i mean it’s really remarkable a relatively rare disease with low industry incentives to not take seriously managed it.

real talk though the outbreak came pre-quarantined on a boat you don’t really get a better opportunity to deal with something like this safely. it didn’t even infect many people on the boat.

eh - some people are getting real antsy about it, but feels on par with how people were antsy about monkeypox.

i suppose it is just me feeling tired - but i think it is probably a nothingburger

mice in the US high desert have hanta. or so i was told. it made us all leery of seeing mouse turds. before that i was pretty brazen about moving around into old storage spaces. this was like “middle of nowhere, turn left” type shit.

so like 20 minutes of waiting for someone to get the one “working” car and then 30 minutes of crazy haul ass to get to some underfunded rural clinic where maybe somebody has gotten enough cell service to call ahead to have an ambo to take you the next 40 minutes to an underfunded rural hospital.

so we were all nuts in some way, but everybody had their “fuck that” boundary. mine was heights and messing with exposed electrical wiring. still is. i saw this guy throw sparks all over a breaker box he had installed by absent-mindedly gesturing at it too closely with a screw driver. he just laughed it off like the fucking joker. but he wouldn’t go near any animal, even obviously domesticated and chill ones.

i don’t live anywhere near where people casually travel to, so i’m gonna hold off on getting the heebie-jeebies. i’m still prepping for fuel shocks, tbh. maybe if the cost of fuel gets too high, people will stop spreading everything around all the damn time.

thoughts?

I have none. It’s not going to become a pandemic.

How contagious is it? What’s the transmission vector? I could probably look these up, but my break is almost over.

Edit: saliva, urine, feces. Transmission between humans requires prolonged contact. Unless there’s a significant mutation it doesn’t sound like epidemic material.

If it becomes a pandemic, it’s going to cull so many people who already have weakened immune systems from Covid. My hopium is that we have lived enough years through a “post”-Covid world that the whole experience has been memoryholed and people are “fresh” enough that they’ll tolerate the quarter-/half-assed measures that were enacted during Covid.

Everytime I cough out a long after a bong rip I’m thinking I have hantavirus.