they may not be super important for some useless school that is basically just a diploma mill, but they are important if you are in good school with goal of getting good education, because they will affect your further progress through the system. like going from bachelor to masters level (which i think is not always the case in us) or getting your phd position.
You Aussie? Haha yeah even as I was typing it I knew it would be a sweeping generalisation because ofc it depends on the field someone is going into and the end goal.
I can’t say I know about how higher corporate positions work these days other than I know we put more emphasis on education now so I take what you’re saying on board. I know my dad started here in the 80s, no education past dropping out in the equivalent of year 10 (in England) and by the 90s was climbing the corporate ladder and ended up quite high (I believe he did a couple of short courses along the way but no diploma or degrees).
He retired a few years ago and yes, definitely spoke about it becoming more focused on what degrees newcomers had. He did also speak to there being the private school boys connections (in his generation too) so yes, all that stuff does exist. Perhaps I have wishful thinking that we’re less focused on that in America.
I’m more lower class than my dad lol, so in my line of work and the people around me - which in fairness tends to be in the caregiving, healthcare industries and much smaller corporations - I’ve not heard people talk about where they went to school or what they’re ENTER/ATAR, etc score was or anything. But yes, vastly different experience than climbing the corporate ladder!
Curious what your experience has been if you’ve seen/heard/experienced how it looks in different industries? Easy to get caught in your own little bubble so I’m always interested in others experiences!
i am czech. basically whole europe is part of bologna system, which makes it easy to standardize and compare schools between countries and do different stages of your study in different places.
so basically you do 3 years for bachelor’s degree, then you do another 2 years for master’s degree. these 2 don’t need to be at the same school or even same country. if you are continuing within the same school, you may be accepted to master’s based on your grades. otherwise you go through some application process where grades may play a role. it is the same when you apply for phd position.
so the grades may definitely affect you. it is true that once you are done with the school and have your diploma, your grades are not really the topic of the conversation, but before that happens, you may have a reason to care.
(medical and law schools are exceptions from this system).
they may not be super important for some useless school that is basically just a diploma mill, but they are important if you are in good school with goal of getting good education, because they will affect your further progress through the system. like going from bachelor to masters level (which i think is not always the case in us) or getting your phd position.
You Aussie? Haha yeah even as I was typing it I knew it would be a sweeping generalisation because ofc it depends on the field someone is going into and the end goal.
I can’t say I know about how higher corporate positions work these days other than I know we put more emphasis on education now so I take what you’re saying on board. I know my dad started here in the 80s, no education past dropping out in the equivalent of year 10 (in England) and by the 90s was climbing the corporate ladder and ended up quite high (I believe he did a couple of short courses along the way but no diploma or degrees).
He retired a few years ago and yes, definitely spoke about it becoming more focused on what degrees newcomers had. He did also speak to there being the private school boys connections (in his generation too) so yes, all that stuff does exist. Perhaps I have wishful thinking that we’re less focused on that in America.
I’m more lower class than my dad lol, so in my line of work and the people around me - which in fairness tends to be in the caregiving, healthcare industries and much smaller corporations - I’ve not heard people talk about where they went to school or what they’re ENTER/ATAR, etc score was or anything. But yes, vastly different experience than climbing the corporate ladder!
Curious what your experience has been if you’ve seen/heard/experienced how it looks in different industries? Easy to get caught in your own little bubble so I’m always interested in others experiences!
i am czech. basically whole europe is part of bologna system, which makes it easy to standardize and compare schools between countries and do different stages of your study in different places.
so basically you do 3 years for bachelor’s degree, then you do another 2 years for master’s degree. these 2 don’t need to be at the same school or even same country. if you are continuing within the same school, you may be accepted to master’s based on your grades. otherwise you go through some application process where grades may play a role. it is the same when you apply for phd position. so the grades may definitely affect you. it is true that once you are done with the school and have your diploma, your grades are not really the topic of the conversation, but before that happens, you may have a reason to care.
(medical and law schools are exceptions from this system).