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Florn [they/them]@hexbear.net to traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.netEnglish · 12 days ago

Many womens' names are formerly mens' names. Which names should be nonbinary-shifted?

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Many womens' names are formerly mens' names. Which names should be nonbinary-shifted?

Florn [they/them]@hexbear.net to traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.netEnglish · 12 days ago
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  • micnd90 [he/him,any]@hexbear.net
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    Yuri is the most non binary name, you can be both an LGBT genre and General Secretary of the Soviet Union

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      Sorry for nerd shit, but the two words differ significantly in both native pronounciation and etymology!

      The Japanese word, pronounced [jɯ̟ɾʲi] originally meant “lily”, which was used as a feminine symbol since the eighteenth century, later developing an association with lesbianism in the late twentieth. in english its usually pronounced /ˈjʊɹi/.

      The Russian name, pronounced [ˈjʉrʲɪj] is a vernacular form of Георгий (pronounced [ɡʲɪˈorɡʲɪj] in modern standard russian), thus stemming from Greek Γεώργιος, pronounced /ʝeˈoɾ.ʝi.os/, which stems from γεωργός (/ʝe.orˈɣos/, “farmer”) +‎ -ιος (/i.os/). English speakers pronounce the modern name usually either as /ˈjʊɹi/ or /ˈjʊɹij/, often depending on romanization.

      • tocopherol [any]@hexbear.net
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        But is ‘Yuri’ actually it’s own name akin to John/Juan or Jack/Jacques, because typically English speakers use the English phonetics to pronounce it?

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          Good question. I’m honestly not that familiar with English-language anthroponymy, but “Yuri” as a name seems to see more use as a feminine given name and appears to be generally more widespread in North America than the former Brutish Empire.

          Yuri just happens to also be a common romanization of two relativly popular Japanese feminine names, ゆり, with pronounciation and hiragana spelling identical to the genre, and ゆうり, pronounced [jɯ̟ːɾʲi]. It’s likely that the feminine Japanese and masculine Russian names were introduced independantly from each other by imigrants to North America, with pronounciation converging later on. So it’s propably correct to call them “unrelated homonymous names” or “etymologically distinct homonyms.”

          Even if society no longer percieves them to be two distinct names and doesn’t distinguish origin-based semantics, they nonetheless remain etymologically distinct historically, but synchronically now function as one form (a merged lexical item).

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netM
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    Biggus Dickus catgirl-smug

  • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    My first name and my middle name both transitioned in my life time, just like me! Quite fortuitous

    • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Nominative determinism strikes again.

  • Aradino [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    greg

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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    Arsène, entirely because it sounds like arson.

  • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    EVERY NAME!!!

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    Douglas

    Hans

    Gordon

    Fred

    For no reason just agree it’s time to shake things up

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      Really feeling Fred and Gordon in particular

  • GnomeGodsGnomeMasters [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    I’ve always loved Dale as a woman’s name, and a year ago I met a young trans woman (couldn’t have been older than 25) named Dale for whom Dale was also their given name and I literally couldn’t stop gushing over their name to a borderline offensive degree… I just love that name.

    Sorry, Dale.

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      Celebratory Dale Gribble emoji, with a beer and a fist pump.

    • groucho@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I’ve always loved Dale as a woman’s name,

      You know about Dale Bozzio, right? She’s awesome.

      • HexReplyBot [none/use name]@hexbear.netB
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        I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

        • yewtu.be
        • inv.nadeko.net
        • yt.artemislena.eu
        • piped.video
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    You know how Sam can be short for Samuel or Samantha, and thus becomes nonbinary? I think we should just do that to all of them. Is Lenny short for Leonard or Lena? Is Al short for Alice or Albert?

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    All the biblical ones.

    John, Joseph, James, Matthew, Paul etc

    • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Juana, Josefina, Paula are relatively common in the Spanish speaking world

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      Jo ist already enby. Mat could work too.

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        Paula and Jaime too but moving the regular versions instead of having alt-versions would be nice in a sort of gender accelerationist kind of way.

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          Yes, absolutely!

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    Reilly and Kelly for sure, but they are already. Let’s fuck shit up, how about like Patrick, Donovan, Kevin, Eric, just really jam the signal.

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    Given that Terry is thoroughly nonbinary, I suggest we extend that to every name that rhymes with it. Gary, Larry, Jerry, Mary, Barry, Sherry etc. Especially because most of them are shortened/nicknames, you could pick a lot of fun names and go by one. Change your name to Jerboa and go by Jerry! Dye your hair orange and black, change your name to Garfield and go by Gary!

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    Pete

    Bob

    Gustav (Gus)

    • DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Pete is kind of already a girls name, I mean Peta is a girls name and you could call her Pete for short.

      I also knew someone who went to school with a girl called Bobette, she could be Bob for short.

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    Every name

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    Guy

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