• DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 days ago

    I swear, there is a suspiciously high number of republicans voters who want left-wing policies done by politicians who claim to be right wing.

    Like they’re leftists who just like the vibe of the right.

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      The right is basically entirely vibes driven. And in a way… I guess it’s not hard to understand why given democrats are made of jello against anyone but the left.

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      Like they’re leftists who just like the vibe of the right.

      Depending on where you are and who you listen to, their impression of the vibe of “the left” beyond the Democrats (whether through grifters/news, propaganda, online experience with dirtbag left, radlibs or even just university campuses) is often characterized as explicitly-political (rather than framing as common-sense), sensitive, language policing, idpol, critical and negative, and not really achieving much. Unless people have direct links to good people on “the Left”, the externally-visible impression of it is a pretty bad vibe. And the disappointing thing is, once you make connections or make an effort to look into it, we’re actually doing so much, and in many cases directly improving peoples’ lives - we need to be loud and proud with that vibe, and let regular people hear it!

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          I feel like this is just a matter of perspective

          Yes, the whole post is based around perspective.

          That part about explicity-political was referring to a phenomenon Harper O’Connor explains a minute into this video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5-AP4YjAUgc&t=63

          Effectively, their claim is that much of the success of right-wing influence has been through gaining strong voices in “apolitical spaces” - fitness and health, gaming and entertainment, etc… They can often frame things as “the Left is forcing politics into our hobbies”, which we can obviously recognize is a political framing in itself, but from a more mainstream perspective, this can seem valid and politically neutral. It’s not rare to hear a socialist say things like “Everything is political”, or prompt people to be more aware of how “normal” behaviors are racist, sexist or otherwise bigoted. To someone who just wants to grill, we can appear aggressive and negative just by offering them a red pill.

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      Like they’re leftists who just like the vibe of the right.

      I guess we’re going to dance around the racism part and just call it ‘vibes’

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      They want left wing outcomes but don’t like the implications of the left wing analysis. Do we get these fantasies that capitalism can somehow be made to go against itself without tearing itself apart.

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      Well most of them are working class so I don’t fine it surprising that they would have a left wooing tendency completely polluted by right-liberal brainworms