• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      They don’t need the Americans or Israelis to destroy their country. They’re very good at doing that themselves.

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        5 months ago

        For a country battered by sanctions Iran is actually doing pretty well for itself, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

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          5 months ago

          They’re destroying their own water supply because of mismanagement and corruption. Last time i checked, living without water is kind of hard.

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            5 months ago

            Yeah that’s a fair point. Seems climate change has a lot to do with it though, so this is more of a joint venture.

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            5 months ago

            Even assuming that’s true*, that’s not the same as “destroying their country.”

            *I’m not sure how much Iranian gender laws affect women’s daily life there.

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              5 months ago

              Within the last few years they had such significant protests in response to a woman who died in police custody that they had to pardon 20k people imprisoned in relation to them and 80k people facing charges. Then they strengthened the laws around the cause for the arrest. That’s not what a functional country does when its people are unhappy.

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                5 months ago

                Authoritarianism ≠ “destroying their country.” That’s exactly what an authoritarian state does when its people are unhappy.

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        5 months ago

        Tbf their state was changed / weakened/ worsened/remade by British Soviet and US meddling.

        Like blaming a child for not having their shit together when the parents are using them as a pawn in their divorce battle.

        Perhaps accurate but lacking all nuance.

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            5 months ago

            50 years… which is peanuts in historical terms. There’s a reason post-colonial states almost uniformly suffer from weak economies and poor and corrupt governance. Overthrowing an already entrenched ruling class is a generations-long affair.