They’re starting the camps as rebuilding the asylums. Pretty nakedly going to keep redefining what will get you involuntarily committed by using vague language that doesn’t reference actual standards of mental health or ethics of treatment.

Make no mistake, the “incompetence” that we constantly see from these goddamn Nazis is intentional. It’s meant to be a malleable definition so they can pivot to whomever is convenient to target whenever they need to.

Arm yourselves, arm your friends, arm the homeless.

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    as it has been noted elsewhere, this is almost identical to the policies being pioneered in california under gavin newsome and los angeles under karen bass. they’re using similar justifications to undergird a similarly violent escalation against unhoused people with nowhere else to go. it’s becoming plainer and plainer daily that newscum is trying to position himself as the liberal Hitler alternative and the trump people are cribbing his notes accordingly.

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    It’s okay, when we elect another Dem prez they’re gonna get rid of this. Right? Surely they won’t quietly expand staff, increase the budget, and hand off a well-oiled fascism machine to the next GOP prez like they did with ICE.

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    The plan for the 21st century is just to return to the late 1800s. That period in the US is one of the inspiration for Nazis. These dudes aren’t fantasizing about being Hitler, they seem themselves as Rockefeller.

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    I did a short analysis of this order in the news mega here, my take on it was essentially what you summarized. The language leaves open the ability to detain any unhoused person in any facility the state has available for any reason they deem necessary, they already could black bag whoever for “national security”, now they can based on mental health criteria that the fascist-aligned Department of Health can make up as they see fit. So while it is aimed at homeless individuals and encampments, it sounds like the order could be used for basically anyone.

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          i feel that and i don’t know how to stop the feeling of sickness long enough to do anything other than loathe my fellow human being for what they allow to happen, what they tacitly or openly support. most people (at least modern people, the subjects of the neoliberal order) are useless, lazy pigs, and if they even feel any kind of negative emotion about this, the most they’ll likely do is post about it. a small minority of heroes will throw their bodies into the cogs and get chewed up. it is just disgusting. it is sickening. the only innocent people are the ones sent to the camps.

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            Most will follow whatever the hegemonic culture is. A hegemony of working class and intrinsic compassion with people that may not have it so easy, will make most people act accordingly. The world belongs to us, we just need to take it.

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                Well thats just because liberalism is shedding its skin and going into fascism. The declining material conditions allow for the advancement of leftist thought, but the same conditions do give rise to fascism, also.

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    rovide assistance to State and local governments, through technical guidance, grants, or other legally available means, for the identification, adoption, and implementation of maximally flexible civil commitment, institutional treatment, and “step-down” treatment standards that allow for the appropriate commitment and treatment of individuals with mental illness who pose a danger to others or are living on the streets and cannot care for themselves.

    I used to work in supportive housing for formerly homeless individuals with mental illnesses and/or substance abuse issues. The vast, vast majority of them just need a car worker to keep them on track of things. “Mental Illness” doesn’t exclusively mean “violently deranged,” it means things like PTSD, bipolar, depression. Put those people into a sanitarium will just make things worse for them.

    ensure that discretionary grants issued by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration for substance use disorder prevention, treatment, and recovery fund evidence-based programs and do not fund programs that fail to achieve adequate outcomes, including so-called “harm reduction” or “safe consumption” efforts that only facilitate illegal drug use and its attendant harm;

    Every public health expert agrees harm reduction has the best outcomes.

    These actions shall include, to the extent permitted by law, ending support for “housing first” policies that deprioritize accountability and fail to promote treatment, recovery, and self-sufficiency; increasing competition among grantees through broadening the applicant pool; and holding grantees to higher standards of effectiveness in reducing homelessness and increasing public safety.

    So fix homelessness, but don’t support housing people, but also increasing the number of applicants for the thing we’re not supporting via deregulation, but also increasing regulatory oversight on them. Very coherent.

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    I want homeless people to then take landowners down with them by calling them accomplices. After all, homeless people couldn’t have committed their “crime” if porky wasn’t such a gluttonous pig.

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    so in reading this it comes off as the biden thing where he released everyone convicted of marijuana possession federally which was like zero people due to how that works. people get arrested for trafficking and shit like that.

    in this case he is going to provide funding for all people who are homeless who are convicted of federal crimes regarding homelessness, which i would presume is exactly 0 people per year.

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    If I read this policy and it was implemented by a socialist state, I would believe what it says and that the goal is to fix the lives of these people.

    When I read this from a country currently kidnapping people off the streets for deportation or imprisonment in salvador? I get a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach.

    Arm all homeless.