If they found him via legal means, then that’s the way they would have said they found him
A mystery man telling a woman at the counter to call before leaving minutes before swat moved in would just be a huge coincidence.
They knew he was on the bus and where it was stopping and they prepared for him.
But hey, maybe I missed something. But as far as I can remember law enforcement lost the benefit of the doubt a long time ago. I just don’t trust the police in general at this point.
There are a bunch of laws outlining how governments can collect evidence. Yhere are some methods that are illegal. If they used a method prohibited by law, the evidence is unusable. If the violation to obtain the evidence is severe enough the cop gets charged.
The crux of their argument is that it is too implausible that someone would decide Luigi was probably the shooter, be aware of the reward, and still ask a random employee to call it in. ANYONE who has worked a public facing job in food services or even a frigging grocery store has had plenty of “concerned citizens” tell them to be a cop.
But, because that is implausible, it must mean that this was some huge conspiracy theory where a paid actor faked a call because the government used some super illegal search method instead (as opposed to just palantir or whatever).
It is complete nonsense and is just a few notches below “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams”.
I don’t think that’s the scenario people suspect.
The anonymous person could have been police or some sort of agent, who ask the employee to make the call, to cover up they already knew where he was, because they knew by illegal means.
IDK if that is true or not, but it is possible, so I wouldn’t call it nonsense.
Why didn’t the anonymous person want the reward himself? Why did Luigi walk around with the murder weapon for 5 days?
Those are plausible questions we may get answers to during the case, but it does seem a bit weird.
Ah, apologies. Not a paid actor but instead an undercover cop posing as a mcdonald’s employee. That totally explains why absolutely nobody else at that mcdonald’s would have said “Yeah, I have no idea who that person was but they don’t work here” and so forth.
Moving on:
Why didn’t the anonymous person want the reward himself?
Because anyone who has been around the block a few times knows that these rewards rarely ever pay out. Also, good odds the “good samaritan” would have been smart enough to realize they don’t want to be the face that brought America’s Favorite Alleged Murderer “to justice”.
Why did Luigi walk around with the murder weapon for 5 days?
He also, allegedly, had his manifesto on him. And he was more than rich enough to have booked a same day flight to a non extradition treaty country the afternoon of the shooting.
Those are plausible questions we may get answers to during the case, but it does seem a bit weird.
A lot of things are “weird”. Believe it or not but perfectly sane and rational people tend to not allegedly 3d print a firearm to allegedly stake out someone for days to allegedly plug them in the head for being evil sons of bitches.
But “True Crime” podcasts and TV have rotted people’s brains into thinking a single anomaly instantly is the smoking gun. When the reality is… people are weird and so is life. One of my favorite “deprogramming” tools is to just point out the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that kicked off WW1. If that were a movie it would be a comedy that even Adam Sandler would say was “a bit much”. But that was life.
It is pretty clear to most people that they are not saying someone posed as a McDonalds employee. I’m not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse, but in case you or anyone else is misunderstanding, they are suggesting the following:
A cop/fed illegally obtained his whereabouts. They follow him into a McD. The cop/fed goes up to McD employee and says “you should call in a tip there’s a big reward”. They don’t mention they are a cop/fed to the McD employee. Now that there is a record of “an anonymous tip” they have an on the books explanation of how they located him without having to disclose how they actually were able to track him.
I’m not saying that’s what happened, but you seem to have repeatedly misunderstood so I’m just making it clear.
ALL they needed was to say “yo dog, that dude looks like the dude in the security camera footage”. Simple as that. Also, why even include a mcdonald’s employee at that point rather than just leaving an “anonymous tip” on a hotline?
Anyone who has been around the block a few times knows that those rewards are almost never paid out. Government/cops decide that a hint “wasn’t enough” or find a way to give it to the “police department” instead
And folk may or may not remember all the “I am not saying the UHC CEO was a good person but he was a father with a family and this was a tragic murder and is really bad” crowd. Large swathes of those fuckos would be smart enough to realize “face of the raid that caught America’s Rizziest Alleged Murderer” might not end well. Hell, they may even have grown up in a town/city where someone DID get a payout and subsequently had to move because local “gangs” (so the populace) would regularly vandalize their car or throw bricks through their windows.
Can you explain why it was through illegal means? I don’t get that part.
If they found him via legal means, then that’s the way they would have said they found him
A mystery man telling a woman at the counter to call before leaving minutes before swat moved in would just be a huge coincidence.
They knew he was on the bus and where it was stopping and they prepared for him.
But hey, maybe I missed something. But as far as I can remember law enforcement lost the benefit of the doubt a long time ago. I just don’t trust the police in general at this point.
There are a bunch of laws outlining how governments can collect evidence. Yhere are some methods that are illegal. If they used a method prohibited by law, the evidence is unusable. If the violation to obtain the evidence is severe enough the cop gets charged.
Because it is nonsense.
The crux of their argument is that it is too implausible that someone would decide Luigi was probably the shooter, be aware of the reward, and still ask a random employee to call it in. ANYONE who has worked a public facing job in food services or even a frigging grocery store has had plenty of “concerned citizens” tell them to be a cop.
But, because that is implausible, it must mean that this was some huge conspiracy theory where a paid actor faked a call because the government used some super illegal search method instead (as opposed to just palantir or whatever).
It is complete nonsense and is just a few notches below “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams”.
I don’t think that’s the scenario people suspect.
The anonymous person could have been police or some sort of agent, who ask the employee to make the call, to cover up they already knew where he was, because they knew by illegal means.
IDK if that is true or not, but it is possible, so I wouldn’t call it nonsense.
Why didn’t the anonymous person want the reward himself? Why did Luigi walk around with the murder weapon for 5 days?
Those are plausible questions we may get answers to during the case, but it does seem a bit weird.
Ah, apologies. Not a paid actor but instead an undercover cop posing as a mcdonald’s employee. That totally explains why absolutely nobody else at that mcdonald’s would have said “Yeah, I have no idea who that person was but they don’t work here” and so forth.
Moving on:
Because anyone who has been around the block a few times knows that these rewards rarely ever pay out. Also, good odds the “good samaritan” would have been smart enough to realize they don’t want to be the face that brought America’s Favorite Alleged Murderer “to justice”.
He also, allegedly, had his manifesto on him. And he was more than rich enough to have booked a same day flight to a non extradition treaty country the afternoon of the shooting.
A lot of things are “weird”. Believe it or not but perfectly sane and rational people tend to not allegedly 3d print a firearm to allegedly stake out someone for days to allegedly plug them in the head for being evil sons of bitches.
But “True Crime” podcasts and TV have rotted people’s brains into thinking a single anomaly instantly is the smoking gun. When the reality is… people are weird and so is life. One of my favorite “deprogramming” tools is to just point out the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that kicked off WW1. If that were a movie it would be a comedy that even Adam Sandler would say was “a bit much”. But that was life.
What? Are you high?
It is pretty clear to most people that they are not saying someone posed as a McDonalds employee. I’m not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse, but in case you or anyone else is misunderstanding, they are suggesting the following: A cop/fed illegally obtained his whereabouts. They follow him into a McD. The cop/fed goes up to McD employee and says “you should call in a tip there’s a big reward”. They don’t mention they are a cop/fed to the McD employee. Now that there is a record of “an anonymous tip” they have an on the books explanation of how they located him without having to disclose how they actually were able to track him.
I’m not saying that’s what happened, but you seem to have repeatedly misunderstood so I’m just making it clear.
… That is somehow even stupider
ALL they needed was to say “yo dog, that dude looks like the dude in the security camera footage”. Simple as that. Also, why even include a mcdonald’s employee at that point rather than just leaving an “anonymous tip” on a hotline?
Again, jet fuel, steel beams, what the fuck?
the assassination itself is a comedy of errors. they actually managed to escape only to happen to turn down an alley with an assassin.
How many concerned citizens have you dealt with that threw away a 60 000$ reward?
Addressed it below but:
Anyone who has been around the block a few times knows that those rewards are almost never paid out. Government/cops decide that a hint “wasn’t enough” or find a way to give it to the “police department” instead
And folk may or may not remember all the “I am not saying the UHC CEO was a good person but he was a father with a family and this was a tragic murder and is really bad” crowd. Large swathes of those fuckos would be smart enough to realize “face of the raid that caught America’s Rizziest Alleged Murderer” might not end well. Hell, they may even have grown up in a town/city where someone DID get a payout and subsequently had to move because local “gangs” (so the populace) would regularly vandalize their car or throw bricks through their windows.