ICE's deportation actions signal that anyone who isn't a US citizen is 'at risk – period,' immigration attorney says.

Summary

Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump’s promise to crack down on “criminal illegal immigrants,” but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

  • TomMasz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    317·
    2 days ago

    You shouldn’t have to have it happen to you before you realize the impact it has on others, but that’s what we’re up against.

    • Vespair@lemm.ee
      5·
      12 hours ago

      Honestly I think this is part of why conservatives like homeschooling so much; being in a close classroom environment teaches most people empathy as they quickly realize they are not the center of the teacher or anyone else’s universe.

      Conservatives want to deprive us the lesson of empathy.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      19 hours ago

      Empathy is a marker of intelligence. I strongly doubt the education of conservatives. Hence the need for first-hand experience

        • someguy3@lemmy.world
          471·
          2 days ago

          I saw a Ted talk that talked about inability to entertain the hypothetical. Some people are simply unable to entertain the hypothetical "what if my wife is deported’, they can only recognize it when it becomes "my wife is being deported ".

          • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            31·
            17 hours ago

            I think both (edit: lack of) Empathy and this inability are required.

            Inability to entertain the hypothetical is a failure in the pure logic reasoning side, quite independent of Empathy.

            So, even the purest of sociopaths (hence, no Empathy whatsoever) can reason that “this can turn around and bit me” and thus not do certain things against others purelly for the selfish reason of not wanting to risk it coming around and bitting them.

            Meanwhile those with Empathy will partly feel the emotions of others when observing them, and also when imagining “how does/will this make them feel”. They don’t tend to do things that hurt others because they themselves end up feeling some of the pain via their own Empathy.

            So people with high Empathy won’t even want to do things to hurt others because it feels bad, those with low or no Empathy but an ability to entertain the hypothetical won’t support certain kinds of things that will hurt large groups of “others” purelly because of the higher risk that they themselves might directly or indirectly end up worse off from it and only the ones combining low Empathy and that inability to entertain the hypothetical (or just being too stupid to even begin to understand the risks of those things) will actual support such broad attacks on “others”.

          • uuldika@lemmy.ml
            31·
            2 days ago

            I’ve heard that some people have difficulty with hypotheticals in general. not just on political issues, like it’s a surprisingly common cognitive issue.

        • dryfter@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          And they confuse the two and think they’re being empathetic. I’m not even sure they have sympathy anymore.

    • sowitzer@lemm.eeEnglish
      48·
      2 days ago

      From the article I don’t get a sense he is at all questioning his vote. He feels his case is special and the government messed up. For him. She’s vetted, so it’s ok. The others deserve what they are getting.

      • Astra@lemmy.mlEnglish
        581·
        2 days ago

        Yep. Brackets by me:

        [Him and his wife] have been thinking a lot about [his] vote for Trump.

        “I knew they were cracking down,” he said. “I guess I didn’t know how it was going down.”

        He imagined the administration would target people who snuck over the border and weren’t vetted

        But his wife, “they know who she is and where she came from,” he said. “They need to get the vetting done and not keep these people locked up. It doesn’t make any sense.”

        The dumbfuck doesn’t show any contrition at all, he just says oops I didn’t know. When this topic came up in the interview, he didn’t admit any regret or that he put himself (and his wife) in this position - he just says that the government is wrong to do this to him/his wife, and that they should go after other illegals instead. What a piece of shit.

        • peregrin5@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          1 day ago

          He’s probably just playing CoD while his wife shivers in a cell. His main grievance is that regular sandwiches aren’t arriving.

    • BakerBagel@midwest.social
      26·
      2 days ago

      My sister in law’s family are all El Salvadorian refugees in Houston. Everyone under 50 are citizens now, but las abuelitas are not. They were all massive Trump supporters hoping that he will kick out “all the illegals” but are convinced that their grandparents wont be deported, and that they might be able to bring in more family.

      Juxtapose that to my family, where my English mom was naturalized 20 years ago after coming to the US on a green card. My family have always been pro-immigrarion since we would never dream of denying someone the same opportunity that we were given. We are all ao flabbergasted by it, but they all love Bukele as well, so i guess it shouldn’t be a surprise.

    • kn0wmad1c@programming.devEnglish
      17·
      2 days ago

      This is the problem endemic with the GOP voter mindset as a whole. They lack any shred of compassion and only care about themselves. The point of a society is shared burden. If you don’t want to love your neighbor, go live in the woods