• Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, it/its]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    75
    ·
    3 giorni fa

    Wow, good for Talarico, anyways, as a reminder,

    https://19thnews.org/2026/09/james-talarico-views-transgender-lgbtq-sports/

    Democratic U.S. Senate nominee James Talarico on Wednesday said he opposed transgender student-athletes competing in girls’ sports “if it endangers safety or fairness,” reversing course on previous positions he took while in the Texas House opposing restrictions on trans athletes.

    So yeah I wouldn’t be certain about him, to say the least

    Yeah, obligatory pre-emptive “to hell with Dems” alongside Reps

    • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      edit-2
      3 giorni fa

      Mormonism. It is the one sect of christianity which both believes God has a physical body and that this body is a distinctly male one.

      This also means that in mormonism since God is physical and fathered Jesus by Mary, it is the one branch where we know for a fact that Joseph has been cucked in the traditional manner.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        3 giorni fa

        Mormonism also states that God has a wife, but nothing about her is stated other than that she’s called the Heavenly Mother.

        And I think there was some dictum from the mormon elders in the 70s telling people to stop praying to the Heavenly Mother for some reason

    • HarryLime [any]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      ·
      3 giorni fa

      I think standard Christian doctrine is that God is a binary male. He’s called God the Father, and Jesus is God the Son. Abrahamic religions are deeply patriarchal.

      Maybe the Holy Spirit is non-binary?

      • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        3 giorni fa

        Theologically speaking, he transcends sex and gender and encapsulates all positive qualities of both genders. The “He” is simply the human patriarchy expressed via language (i.e. we confer more respect to male than female, as such, to respect God, you call him “He”).

        Because of our limited human understanding, “God is nonbinary” is theologically correct, and were we not living in a patriarchy, they/them, it/its pronouns would be appropriate.

        The specific person of Jesus, yes, he is “male”. The “Father” though would also qualify as nonbinary, because he/it contains both son and holy spirit (which is definitely nonbinary).

        Trinitarian theology requires nonbinary god. Also, any Arian heresy (i.e. the Son was created after the Father permanently existed) would also qualify as nonbinary god.

        Theologies specifically around Jesus might actually not qualify for nonbinary God though. However, it’s interesting to note that medieval theology often associated with Christ’s femininity and passivity (i.e. humanity as “feminine” in the face of the “masculine” God) and many female mystics in the period identified with Christ directly because of this. Julian of Norwich called Christ “Mother” after all. So that’s the uno reverse that exists there.

          • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            ·
            3 giorni fa

            A few key books and chapters:

            • “Suffering Woman, Suffering God” from Jill Mann in Feminizing Chaucer
            • The Powers of the Holy: Religion, Politics and Gender in Late Medieval English Culture from David Aers and Lynn Staley
            • Christ’s Body: Identity, Culture, and Society in Late Medieval Writings by Sarah Beckwith
            • Holy Feast and Holy Fast: The Religious Significance of Food for Medieval Women by Caroline Walker Bynum
            • Wonderful Blood: Theology and Practice in Late Medieval Northern Germany and Beyond by Bynum as well

            Also, anything on these figures:

            • Hildegard of Bingen
            • Julian of Norwich
            • Margery Kempe

            Keywords that might be useful: Affective Piety, Passion, Mysticism

          • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            3 giorni fa

            I had to read Anselm of Canterbury for a school thing and it was the worst. Just the most smug asshole you’ve ever read with the most unearned conclusions. It feels like 1+1=Ham at some points. But what you want is probably something like his prayer to Saint Paul, where he explicitly compares the crucifixion to labour and the role of Jesus to that of motherhood.

            I think Bernard of Clairvaux also did a thing where he kind of thinks monks and clergy should function as a sort of institutionalised third sex, serving a maternal rather than paternal role to non-clergy/non-monks. But this I have from like Eleanor Janega and some other podcast.

            • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              3 giorni fa

              Oh, a good essay with sources might be Erich Auerbach’s “Passio as Passion” - this is an important one because it explains how all these dudes (anselm, etc.) understand the “passivity” of Christ as feminine/active. The sources he uses there would probably be useful primary texts in addition to the three women I mentioned.

      • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        3 giorni fa

        I think standard Christian doctrine is that God is a binary male.

        Not really. Standard theology to my understanding is that God is beyond such things. God the Father is usually given male pronouns in most languages and assigned male titles in this aspect (Lord, King of Kings, Father), but He is assumed to be uncreated while the sexes are an aspect of creation. In His aspect as the holy spirit people tend to gender neutral terms.

        In essence God is non binary but he is addressed as male because of a tradition of patriarchy.

        • HarryLime [any]@hexbear.netOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          3 giorni fa

          I see, thank you.

          The Canaanite/Hebrew storm god Yahweh was certainly a male before the development of monotheism in his cult, and he even had a wife, Asherah. I would guess that has a lot to do with God being referred to with male pronouns and titles as well.

          • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            3 giorni fa

            At this point I believe the God of christianity borrows more from Zeus than it does the traditions of El and Yahweh as they were practised in the days of “Israelite” polytheism.

      • woodenghost [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        3 giorni fa

        Do you really want to get to the bottom of this? I made a detailed post about gods gender two years ago.

        Basically the doctrine of divine simplicity means that God is absolutely indivisible and unitary and so identical with each of their attributes. God doesn’t have different aspects to their being or personality, instead, God just exists and saying that God exists already says everything there is to say about them, because their essence is identical with their existence. It is wrong to say God is loving, or good or just etc. Instead, God is love, goodness, justice which each in turn are identical with each other as universals. If God has a gender, that gender must canonically be Justice itself. (and goodness and love and existence and unity and so on).

        Btw this also means that God can never change: beings that change have potential that they can actualize or not. But speaking of actuality and potentiality in relation to God (eg saying “god could choose to do x, or not”) would mean to introduce division and violate divine simplicity and unity. This is Catholic doctrine and was never rejected by protestants either except for the modern process theology.

  • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 giorni fa

    Talarico supports the existence of isntreal and wants to disarm Hamas which means he wants Palestinians to be defenceless against genocide which means he is a Nazi