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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 12 days ago

This comic didn't even come up with the idea of Joker being anti-Nazi. It is directly refering to a 1997 Batman and Captain America crossover where Joker and Red Skull team up...

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This comic didn't even come up with the idea of Joker being anti-Nazi. It is directly refering to a 1997 Batman and Captain America crossover where Joker and Red Skull team up...

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 12 days ago
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  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    traitorous

    As if the joker would care about nationalistic loyalty

    • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      idk, I could see the Joker feeling that the U.S. aligns with his personal ethos exactly.

      • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        The American ethos is all about being a lazy, entitled hog, the Joker loves chaos and death but he’s also very clever and strategic is his sadistic hi jinx.

        Some people have compared Trump to the Joker and I’ve always hated that, Trump just sits around eating McDonalds and telling other people to do shit that he thinks will make him look like he has a big dick. The Joker is out there building clown head shaped death rays and imprisoning politicians in carnival attractions. Trump could never be as productive as the Joker.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          The Joker is a guy that doesnt make sense in the first place and has been written a thousand different ways by a thousand different people. He definitely isnt Trump tho. You’re right on that one. I just saw Coyote Vs Acme, and the main thing I love in a cartoon villain is raw persistence and enjoying the chase. The Mighty Monarch is my favorite example. I would LOVE to have a specific nemesis thst I am that motivated to take down.

          “I wanted to kick his ass. I wanted to build a machine to kick his ass. I wanted to build an empire to house the machine that would kick his ass!”

          • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            Trump’s nemesis is existing, that’s what makes him so boring.

            You need a REAL PHYSICAL nemesis to keep you FUCKING ALIVE!

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              I’m hoping there was a lighting strike and ominous chords after you said that

              • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                hahaha

                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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                  The Monarch has a pretty sweet life going once his relationship stuff is settled pretty early on. Gary is the best best friend a guy could ask for and Sheila is both awooga and an amazong asset .against your nemesis. Your cool nerd bff and super hot wife are both on board with your obsession. That is like…unreasonably hard to achieve

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              [Old man yells at void]

              • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                yells-at-cloud hahaha

          • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            “I wouldn’t even take a wizz on this! I used to dream of taking a wizz on this!”

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            Removed by mod

            • theperfidiousOrbweaver [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              Im not surprised at your modlog history with you just blasting that out in the open.

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          Sure, but if America had proper social services, then he couldn’t do his whole “one bad day” shtick from the killing joke

          • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            Eh, you can still have a REALLY bad day even under socialism.

            Hot take: barring some scifi level breakthroughs in social planning, I think even the optimal socialist society ever within our current technological level would still have depressed, isolated, alienated people just due to the natural injustices of fate. It’d be WAY less common but even The Federation from Star Trek could produce the occasional Joker.

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              Call it optimism but I believe that under communism it would take at least 2 bad days to drive someone to jokerize

              • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                Under FALGSC it’d take about a week.

            • Kefla [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              The “one bad day” thing is a reference to The Killing Joke, a famous and controversial story in which Joker claims that all it takes to turn someone into a lunatic like Batman or himself is “one bad day.” That every person is but one bad day away from completely freaking the fuck out and becoming a comic book character.

              The point of the story being that he’s completely wrong, and that most mentally stable people would require a lot more than one bad day to become the Joker.

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                “Just one bad…”

                “Joker that ridiculous, most people wouldn’t become you after just ONE bad day.”

                “How about a week?”

                “Maybe, but for most people still no.”

                “A month?”

                “Yeah again maybe.”

                “Just one-to-twelve bad months!”

        • thelastaxolotl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Some people have compared Trump to the Joker

          it doesnt help frank miller thinks the same

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        If you want it: take it.

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    Honestly this does feel out of character. Not because of the hating nazis part, but the reasoning being because he’s not a traitorous American

    • Kefla [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah tbh I could buy Joker calling out Nazis for all the race “science” woo bullshit they believe in, or for being cowards and morons. But feeling loyal to America doesn’t make much sense

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        If anything he would call it low grade. He rejects any form of justice even racially backed one.

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    deleted by creator

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    i-do : can-excuse-1

    Me : can-excuse-2

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    I guess they just like the part that the joker abuses women but hates when the character does things like hate nazis

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    Just go jerk off to the henchwoman with swastika pasties from The Dark Knight Returns again

    Christ almighty

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      Just go jerk off to the henchwoman with swastika pasties from The Dark Knight Returns again

      I forgot that Bruno was a thing. She had swastikas in her glutes too in the comics. I think Frank Miller must have seen Night Porter some days before creating that character. Also, holy shit did DC suck in creating henchwomen before Ursa, Harley Quinn and Mercy became a thing.

      • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        if you want a good henchwoman get bruce timm and paul dini apparently

        • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.net
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          Bruce Timm knows how to create a character, just don’t let him write anything relating to Batgirl

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    wdym he’s still the best batman vill - oh it’s because he isn’t licking nazi boot he’s bad, isn’t it?

  • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    pfp is literally this

    wonder-who-thats-for

  • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Hilariously this is the opposite of the problem with most modern joker stories. Here he’s pretty lighthearted and camp. Usually they make him so grimdark and edgy that they forget to make him funny.

  • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Didn’t that comic come out YEARS ago?

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