It used to be said that socialism could only work in the United States because the United States is the only place that can’t be invaded by the United States, but then ICE happened.
To be fair, socialism already works very well considering the conditions of sanctions and siege, it just isn’t a magic wonderland utopia like many westerners seem to think socialism becomes overnight.
The quote is referring to Iran and Chile, not Cuba or Vietnam.
Hilarious, short of a very bloody revolution that ain’t happening. Those in charge won’t allow it
Give me a break, they will co-opt and control it like always.
Isn’t that kind of the definition of a revolution?
That those in charge won’t allow it?
That’s why I specified the type
Hence the recent SCOTUS decision. Can’t wait to see the DNC use it to push out progressives.
Which decision?
Thank you.
Cool guess I’ll die
I’ll join you
I second that.
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I would rather die in a revolution than be around when climate change will kill most humans on earth.
If that’s what is necessary and demanded by the elites, then so be it. I’m game.
I don’t think they will enjoy participating in the neo-technical revolution that our modern society is capable of. Drones are cheap and will find them, no matter where they are.
Off you pop then, no time like the present for a revolution.
Sure if you promise to go with me.
No revolution is accomplished alone but you knew that already with your disingenuous and defeatist retort.
Jfc, these edgelords are killing me. What, do you know krav maga too? Let me guess, you’d show me but you’re wearing the wrong pants? Lmao.
You’re the one talking about how you could totally go on a killing spree of the richest and most powerful people in the world in the name of ‘revolution’.
So go do it.
Shit or get off the pot.
Do your badass drone strikes and show them who’s boss.
You bigged yourself up saying you so totally could do this. So go do it. I’m not going to hold your hand. This isn’t my fight.
Or you know, if you’re not actually going to go be a hero, you can save face by not being a fucking edgelord in the first place and not telling people you could so totally kill the billionaires with your drone skills.
Your choice.
Way to keep your head in your ass and miss the point about how revolutionary actions are something that no one can do alone.
All you know how to do is put words in other people’s mouths so you can argue against your own strawman and oversimplified misrepresentation of the argument like it’s something that can just be done with the flick of a switch. To yell at people to do things while you sit on your ass with your “I got mine, fuck everyone else” attitude. This isn’t your fight? What? You’re not a working class person? You a parasite owning class bitch then? Do you have no solidarity?
Revolutions aren’t about heroes or going on senseless killing sprees, they are about community and organizing together so we can defend ourselves from oppression of the state and the owning class. If that means violence then we, as communities, need to prepare for it. We are perfectly capable of doing so effectively and that only begins by talking about it and encouraging people to take action.
I never said I could do this. I said we could, as in the working class. History shows it’s possible but still people like you would rather spend their effort trying to silence anyone who speaks about doing something about the state our societies are in.
Keep that boot in your mouth if it so suits you.
Anyway, congrats on blocking me dumbass and if you’ve actually managed to read and take in any of the pages I’ve linked, have you now got a slightly better understanding of how monumentally fucked we are?
So, what are you going to do now?
Are you going to protest? Do you think that will do anything? Lmao, maybe you’ll make some friends and have a nice little solidarity about the state of things with them. I hear prison sucks though, and climate protesters keep getting jailed these days.
Are you going to go vegan? That would be a huge positive impact you could make of as it would reduce the carbon emissions and soil degridation impact slightly from animal agriculture. Most people though, even climate scientists and climate activists, won’t go vegan. So probably not that either.
Maybe you’ll forgo procreating, each human produces a trully staggering amount of carbon (I’m just guessing that you’re in the US, look up your country if not). That would be very kind to your potential offspring too as the upcoming droughts and famines are going to kill billions globally.
Who knows, maybe you’ll even live out your angry edgelord dreams and drone strike a billionaire.
Or hey, maybe against all odds you’ll wake up one day and realise that somehow, you’re suddenly some kind of god-wizard capable of rewriting the laws of physics! How exciting. You could really make a difference this way.
You’d probably need to fundamentally change human nature too though because there’s no way our species isn’t going to do this again if you’ll let them.
Personally, as I don’t believe in the power of duex ex machina and am not interested in doing something profoundly stupid to land myself in prison, I’m just going to keep being vegan and childfree, and I’m going to try to enjoy the last of the abundance till the food runs out and/or these tumours kill me.
P.S. If you really want our species to survive 4.5c by 2060 and not go extinct by the end of the century, you should aim for god-wizard.
Ok, Doomer.
Go lay down and die then. Go off yourself now and save everyone the trouble of dealing with your stupid ass.
Lmao, this [as in your initial comment] isn’t my fight because I’m not going around telling people I’m going to kill the billionaires with my badass drone skills. That was you, buddy.
This [climate collapse, resource depletion, billionaires, capitalism, etc] also isn’t my fight because I’m not interested in larping at being a physics defying wizard capable of rewriting reality.
I’m not rich or ‘owning class’ either, and I wasn’t yelling at you. I was mocking you.
What do you actually know about climate collapse and resource depletion? If you’d care to actually learn something about the state of the world we live in, you might understand why I’m such a pessamistic misanthrope.
Did you know that 90% of earths topsoil is at risk of depletion by 2050? That’s what all the food grows in btw. Without arable land, there is no way to feed 8+ billion people.
Did you know that global freshwater demand will exceed supply 40% by 2030? Our planet will be 40% over capacity on fresh water resources globally by 2030. Without fresh water, we can’t grow food and hydrate 8+ billion people.
Did you know that our global human population has surpassed Earth’s sustainable carrying capacity?
Did you know that global carbon emissions are still rising?
Did you know that the latest CFSv2 model runs now show the Nino 3.4 SST anomaly forecast peaking at 4.10°C in November.
Do you know what a blue ocean event is? Do you want to follow along with daily updates on the arctic sea ice extent?
Did you know that June 2026 came in as the second warmest on record since 1940 at 1.39°C above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial baseline, second only to 2024 at 1.50°C above the baseline?
Did you know that the world is likely to exceed a key global warming target soon. But can you guess what these guys aren’t measuring that will impact this massively?
The answer is a nice call back to the Blue Ocean Event you hopefully just learned about, because did you know that 4.5c above the baseline by 2060 is possible?
Would you like me to go on? There is so much more we haven’t even touched upon yet, but this post is long enough as it is.
My body is ready for the USSA.
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Although the R in USSR did not stand for “Russia” but “Republics,” as the USSR was a federation of several countries. Russia in particular was the RSFSR. It would probably be the ASFSR, or TISFSR (American Soviet Federative Socialist Republic or Turtle Island Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) as “America” is made up of many indigenous peoples. A federation as the basis of the socialist state would help with decolonization.
I was going for United Socialist States of America because it was low hanging fruit, but yours is good too.
Oh gotcha, makes sense!
Shitlibs beware
Ooh goody, maybe fox gets to do their bit about the war on christmass again.
What I don’t get is why leftists don’t support states’ rights the way conservatives do. Shouldn’t you go all-in on states’ rights do you can build your socialist paradises on the coasts? Why do you care at all about what happens in flyover country?
Shouldn’t you go all-in on states’ rights do you can build your socialist paradises on the coasts? Why do you care at all about what happens in flyover country?
Let me throw it back to you, why do conservatives keep fucking with us instead of leaving us alone to build their fascist paradise in flyover country?
Texas forced immigrants onto buses and then dropped them off in the middle of Chicago, with zero resources or connections, in order to “own the libs.” Chicago responded by saying, “Hey, we don’t mind you sending them here, but could you please give us a heads up so we can coordinate with services to help them get homes and jobs?” and Texas responded, “Go fuck yourself.”
Then, the federal government said, “There’s too many immigrants in Chicago” and sent their fascist thugs to abduct people off the street, with no due process, explicitly on the basis of race, against the protests of state and local government. And Texas sent their National Guard too.
Now you tell me: what the fuck did we ever do to Texas? What “states’ rights” could possibly exist in such circumstances? In this ideal that conservatives pretend to care about where states are more like independent countries, Illinois would be entirely justified in declaring a defensive war against Texas, which is doing everything it possibly can to create instability and chaos.
They’re literally coming here and releasing human beings to hunt for sport in our cities, and then they turn around and have the audacity to talk about “states’ rights.”
Wasn’t ‘states rights’ all about owning slaves?
I like the idea of embracing the “laboratories of democracy” approach, but it can only really work if there’s some kind of federally funded relocation program. States rights sound great until you’re born a broodmare in a theocratic state.
You can’t have it both ways though. If you’re going to insist on a strong federal government, you have to accept the risk that you end up living under a broodmare theocratic federal government. States’ rights would protect you from that.
States’ rights would protect you from that.
They protect the blue state eloi who have never cared about anyone other than themselves, sure. But good people in red states get fucked. Which you’re HAPPY with.
No, those people move from red states to blue states. That migration has been going on for a long time. It’s one of many reasons why the states are so polarized.
No, those people move from red states to blue states.
The ones who can afford to, yes. Funny thing about states’ rights. When blue states raise their minimum wage, their voters stop caring about raising wages nationwide.
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Socialism isn’t about endlessly balkanizing the world into microstates, but stitching together humanity to work on the same page, for the same purpose. Capitalism already made humanity incredibly interdependent, socialism just shifts the benefits of that social surplus from going to just a few people in a few countries to the working classes.
Because a lot of us saw how that worked with the minimum wage, abortion, cannabis, and a host of other things where blue states stopped trying as soon as they got theirs.
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I think it’s because they are overrepresented federally which erodes states’ rights in the long term.
