I really love the people who try to say ‘oh it’s an obscure nazi symbol not like it’s a swastika maybe he didn’t know’
not only because it’s absolutely one of the top 3 most recognizable nazi symbols (IDK if the eagle one beats it) but because as far as I can tell it’s a part of military training to recognize extremist symbols and they absolutely would have learned about it.
not only because it’s absolutely one of the top 3 most recognizable nazi symbols
I think he did know, but the “it’s recognizable to other people” argument falls flat on its face considering the shirtless photo that ignited the controversy was taken at a Jewish wedding and nobody seemed to notice or care, if a hundred plus Jewish Americans couldn’t detect it, then the average American cracker absolutely wouldn’t. In fact it makes me wonder in that photo he knew what it was but was confident nobody else would and felt he was getting one over on people; that tracks more accurately with established neo-Nazi behavior
Don’t confuse your knowledge with that of the wider public, most Americans cannot recognize symbols like the Sonnenrad (Black Sun), the Wolfsangel, the Totenkopf (Death’s Head), or numeric codes like 1488, because those symbols fall outside of routine Hollywood cinematics. The “History Channel Effect” and the “Hide in plain sight” doctrines of countless neo-nazi orgs have been major leftist insights into the pervasive phenomenon of American historical illiteracy, don’t throw away those insights just to get an own, when Platner is already a target-rich-own environment
but because as far as I can tell it’s a part of military training to recognize extremist symbols and they absolutely would have learned about it.
That is absolutely not a thing, the US military does not give a rats ass about teaching about or combating neo-nazism, I don’t even expect the average FBI agent to hold that knowledge. What on earth are you guys saying?
Maybe he’s just been doing a very long term plan to educate US Americans about fascist symbols and we just haven’t seen enough skin yet to see the others
Counter point, no one wants to deal with a drunk ex marine, especially if part of the family.
Honestly the biggest issue is how many people who are defending him so excited to say well I’ve never seen it so it’s fine a person running for congress had it. Only history people would know or care about an SS symbol
Counter point, no one wants to deal with a drunk ex marine, especially if part of the family.
This counterpoint would be credible if it were a typical cracker American family where racism of all kinds are habitually brushed aside, but a wedding with a hundred-plus Jewish Americans? No, Occam’s razor takes precedence, and the likelihood is nobody recognized it because, irrespective of the moral and social implications, most Americans do not have an in-depth knowledge of even basic history or Nazi symbolism. Otherwise you’d have to argue that even if he had the swastika or SS bolts tattooed on his chest, nobody at that Jewish wedding would’ve confronted him—not very credible in my estimation
The facts that underwrite the premises of a critique are what make or break the argument; otherwise, we move from a socialist analysis of a given situation to a liberal conception of politics where the vibe is God, and to my immense frustration, a lot of leftists have dived headfirst into radlib framings and argument styles without regard for basic facts, which in my opinion, makes no sense considering again, this douchbag is the definition of a target-rich-own environment
I really love the people who try to say ‘oh it’s an obscure nazi symbol not like it’s a swastika maybe he didn’t know’
not only because it’s absolutely one of the top 3 most recognizable nazi symbols (IDK if the eagle one beats it) but because as far as I can tell it’s a part of military training to recognize extremist symbols and they absolutely would have learned about it.
I think he did know, but the “it’s recognizable to other people” argument falls flat on its face considering the shirtless photo that ignited the controversy was taken at a Jewish wedding and nobody seemed to notice or care, if a hundred plus Jewish Americans couldn’t detect it, then the average American cracker absolutely wouldn’t. In fact it makes me wonder in that photo he knew what it was but was confident nobody else would and felt he was getting one over on people; that tracks more accurately with established neo-Nazi behavior
Don’t confuse your knowledge with that of the wider public, most Americans cannot recognize symbols like the Sonnenrad (Black Sun), the Wolfsangel, the Totenkopf (Death’s Head), or numeric codes like 1488, because those symbols fall outside of routine Hollywood cinematics. The “History Channel Effect” and the “Hide in plain sight” doctrines of countless neo-nazi orgs have been major leftist insights into the pervasive phenomenon of American historical illiteracy, don’t throw away those insights just to get an own, when Platner is already a target-rich-own environment
That is absolutely not a thing, the US military does not give a rats ass about teaching about or combating neo-nazism, I don’t even expect the average FBI agent to hold that knowledge. What on earth are you guys saying?
Maybe he’s just been doing a very long term plan to educate US Americans about fascist symbols and we just haven’t seen enough skin yet to see the others
At least that argument acknowledges Americans are pig ignorant lotus eaters when comes to the history of fascism
Counter point, no one wants to deal with a drunk ex marine, especially if part of the family.
Honestly the biggest issue is how many people who are defending him so excited to say well I’ve never seen it so it’s fine a person running for congress had it. Only history people would know or care about an SS symbol
This counterpoint would be credible if it were a typical cracker American family where racism of all kinds are habitually brushed aside, but a wedding with a hundred-plus Jewish Americans? No, Occam’s razor takes precedence, and the likelihood is nobody recognized it because, irrespective of the moral and social implications, most Americans do not have an in-depth knowledge of even basic history or Nazi symbolism. Otherwise you’d have to argue that even if he had the swastika or SS bolts tattooed on his chest, nobody at that Jewish wedding would’ve confronted him—not very credible in my estimation
The facts that underwrite the premises of a critique are what make or break the argument; otherwise, we move from a socialist analysis of a given situation to a liberal conception of politics where the vibe is God, and to my immense frustration, a lot of leftists have dived headfirst into radlib framings and argument styles without regard for basic facts, which in my opinion, makes no sense considering again, this douchbag is the definition of a target-rich-own environment