• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    I watched a live stream from NJ yesterday. The homies were quick to throw a cone on a canister, and 2-3 liters of water were quickly applied. It did not seem to make any difference. I would guess there is a difference between what is being deployed by feds in the US and whatever they were using in HK. Leaf blowers or leather gloves for returning them to the sender are probably more effective options for us.

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    (Okay, yeah. This method is less likely to be successful, I suppose. But it’s a lot more fun.)

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        Also there might even just be…be some hanging around…

        Even still, the bucket and all is cool too! Nice to have options, for flexibility. :3

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      All an oven mitt is doing to these is melting them into your flesh. These things get to more than 1200° F. Hotter than any glove you can buy is rated for sustained contact with. Welding gloves are just enough protection to guarantee you never use your hands again, but they probably won’t have to be surgically removed.

      Standard tear gas canisters cannot be extinguished with water either. Pouring water into an enclosed space with a small opening is only going to create superheated steam jetting from the top.

      This post is purpose built to get people horrifically injured.

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        I’m sorry, but your understanding of physics is incorrect. Water has a very high heat capacity. A tear gas canister is made of thin metal. It won’t flash more than a few drops of that bottle of water to steam before cooling down.

        Also, if it did, traffic cones aren’t nailed down, are they? It would explode out the sides.

        Thirdly, I have personally seen people with gloves grab tear gas canisters and throw em back. They don’t keep hold of them for very long, and their gloves aren’t damaged.

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          Water has a very high heat capacity. A tear gas canister is made of thin metal. It won’t flash more than a few drops of that bottle of water to steam before cooling down.

          Congrats, this is the dumbest shit I’ve read in a fair bit.

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            Think about your oven, turned up to 500 degrees. You put a cast iron pan on one rack, and a 10x10-inch sheet of aluminum foil on another rack. While they heat up, fill two sinks halfway with water. Pull the pan out of the oven and throw it in a sink. Pull the sheet of aluminum foil out and throw it in the other sink. Which produces more steam?

            The pan and foil were both the same temperature, 500 degrees, but one had more heat capacity than the other.

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              I mean, hell, I’ve pulled aluminum foil out of an oven and it’s safe to handle without protection in seconds of coming out

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          It’s gotta be really short, but yeah. Welding gloves are excellent at dealing with flash heat (which makes sense because they’re used to protect the user from extremely hot but small objects with low specific heat).

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    This is something I learned from the Hong Kong protests over the 2018 national security act. Of course I had to learn it by watching footage of the brave people having to do it live.

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      Not effectively. The amount of dispersed chemicals is going to spread far beyond what a leaf blower could push back. Even an entire front row of leaf blowers isn’t going to be effective, because they don’t just launch these in front of you. Are you going to leaf blow the gas towards the back of the crowd when you turn around?

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    I wonder if just carrying the cone upside down with a water balloon already inside and then dumping it overtop would work.

    I think they tend to get hot so would probably pop water balloon quickly to smother with the water.

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    most cones are slightly elevated and the water would just run out.

    i think the large bucket was the preferred containment