• mudkip@lemdro.id
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    I didn’t think that we would be going into the death camp stage this quickly.

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    1 day ago

    Wow. This “article” is hard to read. Stream of consciousness rambling.

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    3 days ago

    These are the death squads they warned us about with Obama. It is always projection every fucking time.

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          As @Kynsey@lemmy.ml said, there were multiple types of camps, and the distinction is extremely important to make. Concentration camps are bad, death camps are magnitudes worse.

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          2 different things. Read up on your history. There were multiple types of camps during the holocaust. Some were concentration camps, and some were death camps. It’s a very important distinction. Doesn’t make one type not evil. But you should understand the difference between the two since we’re apparently rareing up for round two of the fascist boogaloo.

  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    Those people, the costs. They should just die.”

    Donald Trump said this in the Oval Office after a meeting on disability resources.

    This whole article is from the onion, yes? Or maybe just totally misunderstood everything.

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      It’s not an article, it’s just someone’s substack blog. Their only source about the incinerators in detention centers seems to be some Navy contract that they never actually quote from, probably because they later admit the document doesn’t mention incinerators. So I don’t think there’s any actual evidence for this “crematorium network” yet. I don’t doubt they want to do it, but let’s get some receipts before screaming that it’s actually happening.

      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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        I would really find that hard to believe, even for the current state the US is in. Whole story sounds fishy. But then again…I would’ve never thought such a silly clown could become a president of ANYTHING.

      • fiat_lux 🆕 🏠@lemmy.zip
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        2 days ago

        The documents on the government site. WEXMAC TITUS A0001 ELIN Spreadsheet SAM.xlsx has medical waste management as a line item under ELIN “AA1N”.

        It doesn’t specifically say incinerators, and there are a few ways regulated medical waste is disposed of, but all methods of biohazardous medical waste treatment use heat. If it weren’t intended for biohazardous waste, it would likely fall under one of the multiple other waste management line items.

        I’m not sure if a network of camps with autoclaves or microwaves instead of crematoriums is any better.

    • NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social
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      No, this is just present day USA when you actually analyze it.

      Don’t worry though, I’m sure the incinerator in the 100,000 person detention centre will only be used for medical waste like they say it will and they will happily bear the cost of deporting each and every person to country of origin.

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        Funny how they’re not providing medical care, yet need to dispose of medical waste.

      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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        Being a German whose grandparents… Well you know…this all rings certain bells. But present day? In plain sight? I can’t even… Just testing to see when those dirty evil immigrants and lqbtqs leave by their own will?

        I’d be so gone if I was in this situation. Mexico, Canada and more. All near. None can be worse.

        This still reads like a mildly funny onion.

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          I’d be so gone if I was in this situation. Mexico, Canada and more. All near. None can be worse.

          I desperately want to leave the country, but Canada doesn’t make it easy (which is an understatement) and despite growing up and living in Texas I don’t speak any Spanish. Mexico seems alright, but given the climate situation I don’t really want to move further south.

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            Oh yeah right…the climate would kill me there. Europe is probably happily taking some sane muricans? Speaking English already at least doesn’t leave you stranded anywhere. We mostly all speak or at least understand it.

            If I could choose (and endure the horrible sounding languages) I’d pick Finland, denmark, Iceland (for the living - standards) or the Netherlands (if you like biking).

    • LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Paul Celan - Todesfuge

      Schwarze Milch der Frühe wir trinken sie abends wir trinken sie mittags und morgens wir trinken sie nachts wir trinken und trinken wir schaufeln ein Grab in den Lüften da liegt man nicht eng Ein Mann wohnt im Haus der spielt mit den Schlangen der schreibt der schreibt wenn es dunkelt nach Deutschland dein goldenes Haar Margarete er schreibt es und tritt vor das Haus und es blitzen die Sterne er pfeift seine Rüden herbei er pfeift seine Juden hervor läßt schaufeln ein Grab in der Erde er befiehlt uns spielt auf nun zum Tanz

      Schwarze Milch der Frühe wir trinken dich nachts wir trinken dich morgens und mittags wir trinken dich abends wir trinken und trinken Ein Mann wohnt im Haus der spielt mit den Schlangen der schreibt der schreibt wenn es dunkelt nach Deutschland dein goldenes Haar Margarete Dein aschenes Haar Sulamith wir schaufeln ein Grab in den Lüften da liegt man nicht eng

      Er ruft stecht tiefer ins Erdreich ihr einen ihr andern singet und spielt er greift nach dem Eisen im Gurt er schwingts seine Augen sind blau stecht tiefer die Spaten ihr einen ihr andern spielt weiter zum Tanz auf

      Schwarze Milch der Frühe wir trinken dich nachts wir trinken dich mittags und morgens wir trinken dich abends wir trinken und trinken ein Mann wohnt im Haus dein goldenes Haar Margarete dein aschenes Haar Sulamith er spielt mit den Schlangen Er ruft spielt süßer den Tod der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland er ruft streicht dunkler die Geigen dann steigt ihr als Rauch in die Luft dann habt ihr ein Grab in den Wolken da liegt man nicht eng

      Schwarze Milch der Frühe wir trinken dich nachts wir trinken dich mittags der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland wir trinken dich abends und morgens wir trinken und trinken der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland sein Auge ist blau er trifft dich mit bleierner Kugel er trifft dich genau ein Mann wohnt im Haus dein goldenes Haar Margarete er hetzt seine Rüden auf uns er schenkt uns ein Grab in der Luft er spielt mit den Schlangen und träumet der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland

      dein goldenes Haar Margarete dein aschenes Haar Sulamith

      Paul Celan - Death Fugue

      Black milk of dawn, we drink it in the evening.

      We drink it at noon and in the morning, we drink it at night.

      We drink and drink.

      We shovel a grave in the air, there one doesn’t lie cramped.

      A man lives in the house, he plays with the snakes, he writes.

      He writes when it darkens to Germany, your golden hair, Margarete.

      He writes it and steps before the house, and the stars flash. He whistles his hounds to him.

      He whistles his Jews forth, has them shovel a grave in the earth.

      He commands us, play now for the dance.

      Black milk of dawn, we drink you at night.

      We drink you in the morning and at noon, we drink you in the evening.

      We drink and drink.

      A man lives in the house, he plays with the snakes, he writes.

      He writes when it darkens to Germany, your golden hair, Margarete.

      Your ashen hair, Sulamith, we shovel a grave in the air, there one doesn’t lie cramped.

      He He calls, digs deeper into the earth, you one, you another, sing and play.

      He reaches for the iron in his belt, he swings it, his eyes are blue.

      Dig deeper, the spades, you one, you others, play on for the dance.

      Black milk of dawn, we drink you at night.

      We drink you at noon and in the morning, we drink you in the evening.

      We drink and drink.

      A man lives in the house, your golden hair, Margaret.

      Your ashen hair, Sulamith, he plays with the snakes.

      He calls, plays sweeter, death, death is a master from Germany.

      He calls, strokes the violins darker, then you rise as smoke into the air.

      Then you have a grave in the clouds, there you don’t lie cramped.

      Black milk of dawn, we drink you at night.

      We drink you at noon, death is a master from Germany.

      We drink you in the evening and in the morning, we drink and drink.

      Death is a master from Germany, his eye is blue.

      He hits you with a lead bullet, he hits you right.

      A man lives in House, your golden hair, Margarete

      He sets his hounds on us, he gives us a grave in the air

      He plays with the snakes and dreams, death is a master from Germany

      Your golden hair, Margarete Your ashen hair, Sulamith

  • Hotzmon@fedinsfw.app
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    3 days ago

    This doesn’t sound like 1930’s Europe at all. You are in great track US.

    • fiat_lux 🆕 🏠@lemmy.zip
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      Coverage flags contract line items that reference medical-waste management and incinerators, but journalists and analysts repeatedly note that medical-waste incineration is not the same as human cremation and that the “crematorium” framing escalates the claim beyond documented facts [2].

      “Repeatedly”, but only one citation, from a list of story titles for the The Thom Hartmann Radio & TV Program with no actual story. Just someone using Chatgpt in the comments because there was no story. Brilliant.

      Several reputable outlets covering the broader story — and analysts cited therein — warned against treating the crematorium narrative as factual without clearer documentary proof [2] [3].

      At least there’s two links! But one is the same link from before. And the other is a PBS interview with a Washington Post reporter that at no point mentions anything to do with medical waste, incinerators or crematoriums, let alone warns anyone about factual framing.

      Factually is an AI-powered research tool that helps people find reliable answers.

      Uh-huh.

      It’s a truly insidious variety of the slop machine. This is arguably one of the worst use cases possible for an LLM.

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        Thanks for double checking, I didn’t intend to spread LLM slop, my bad. I deleted the comment, and added the website to my blocklist.

        The article from op does lacks appropriate sources. I hope a reliable outlet is working on fact-checking this.

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      thanks an interesting read and while not as scary as crematoriums it is a scary read none the less. Just the fact they are getting funding honestly is. We need to starve the beast when it comes to dhs and the military under this irresponsible administration.

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    55 billion? Those numbers are so freaking ludicrous and meaningless that grift is very easy. Very, very easy indeed. Cost-accounting on that estimate would most likely tell you a completely different story.