I know this artist is shitty, but this one unintentionally ends up effectively criticizing how corporations use sexual objectification to their advantage. Its no coincidence to usually find cute 20 y.o girls in greeting/front office/waiting positions, and the fact that they get funneled into those with the expectations of sexual appeal making customers more pliable means that they are less likely to be considered for other roles. And of course the comic also effectively makes its main joke. The skirt getting longer is hilarious in conjunction with the earlier idea. The corporation revokes the sex appeal of its workers at the support level as faceless call operators.
In the context of the artist’s other work it is possible to see this as intended to be some incel-y condemnation of two-faced women. But if we can admit that the comic in isolation does reflect reality, the artist’s own opinion becomes a beautiful unwitting second layer of commentary: Corporations use humans as tools, and a great benefit of this for them is that the bad behavior that the corporation mandates often ends up being blamed on the human, who really had very little choice in the matter (work or starve). So what we see here is really just one tiny example of a mechanism by which systemic oppression protects itself with demographic warfare: by using individuals with demographic traits in a consistent way, manufacturing non-intrinsic truths about those demographics which can then be misinterpreted as intrinsic, and then laundering its acts via these human interfaces.
Sorry yes I know this is a very overanalytic read of this
I think a different comic could put out something similar with just a few changes and make the point that you’re getting at
This one though, hard disagree. Like, the way the second woman is a ridiculous over masculine troll makes it seem that the butt of the joke isn’t the company using these objectifying policies but instead the woman herself, no longer an object of attraction for the man
If women are attractive, they’re trying to exploit you. And if they’re not seductive, they’re monstrous and masculine.
Rather than being a critique of the manufacture of non-intrinsic characteristics, the comic instead mocks those characteristics
And you’re maybe right in that I’m biased to read it that way because of the artist, but at the same time knowing how the artist normally portrays gender and sexual politics makes this the obvious reading and hos audience knows this
No no the artist absolutely intends it that way lol. I just mean that the comic can be interpreted differently than its creator’s intent
I thought the same but coming from this artist I think it’s just the average oversexualization they do
I know this artist is shitty
Why?
I see that the artist is downvoted really a lot, but can’t find the reason why that happens.
The comics themselves are not that bad imo, I actually liked quite a few of the ones l’ve seen so far…If you see a single comic it may not come across as particularly shitty. When you see a few, if you are paying attention, you see a pattern.
This artist typically draws scantily clad women in situations where average women wouldn’t be dressed like that. If you see a single comic, you might think this is just a character quirk, something specific of this particular character. But no, it’s the default.
Now I love a pin up just as much as anyone else. I wouldn’t consider overly revealing outfits a problem if that’s all that was to it. But it’s not. The “humor” often pivots on “exposing the hypocrisy” of said women. And then again, this is not an individual character quirk but a catch all bag of stereotypes. We see women showing off their body for online clout, women dressing provocatively only to get angry at people looking at them (or wait, maybe that one means women purposely dress provocatively just to troll people looking at them?), we see women just being bitches to each other for petty reasons, etc. Get it? Hot women are either stupid and shallow or hypocrites. Ha, ha.
But wait, there is more. We have the ranting feminist woman character, who is also a hypocrite for supporting depictions of hot men but not those of women (dumb strawman argument if I’ve ever seen one) and just being annoying. This woman doesn’t show her boobs or undies to you, remember this. Just like the other woman who also doesn’t show her boobs and undies, and is a short-sighted, anti-gamer parent.
Ah but we also have the feminist who protests topless, and is somehow bothered by another woman who is dressed provocatively. Because, we already mentioned, women are hypocrites, especially feminists. He outdid himself with the strawman argument on this one.
Then we also have the skinny fashion model women whose sin probably is being vain so it’s ok for Artist Representation Character Guy to call them zombies. Fuck any nuance in why these unhealthy standards exist, it’s probably all women’s fault because they are shallow.
Then we have fap jokes, awkward santa jokes about sitting girls on his lap jokes, and remember, stories that put LGBTQ in a positive light are probably propaganda so let’s laugh at people supporting that too jokes. Ha ha ha.
Oh and this. Companies lure and switch you. Yes, a valid critique. The unpleasant switch though? Masculine women, because, like we already said, women who don’t show you their D cups are unpleasant.
Not shitty enough?
It is not. Some people just apply Orwell’s thoughtcrime concept to the real life.
I respect that you want to verify, but I don’t want to link their site. Here’s one that kind of gives you the idea:
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Nah, that completed the thought
I am genuinely curious what your thoughts were. That some races are more entitled to certain clothing or hairstyle than other races? That’s racism, pure and simple.
Oh, I just think it’s a straw man argument. I’ve never actually seen a black person be mad about a white person doing their hair in dreadlocks. I’m sure its happened, but it seems like such a tiny minority of people that the comic is cherry picking in order to imply that cultural appropriation in general is always a stupid thing. But really the comic is just picking the dumbest possible example of it, which almost nobody actually subscribes to, and using that to reject the whole idea which does have some merits
I’ve never actually seen a black person be mad about a white person doing their hair in dreadlocks
Agreed, I have never seen anyone of any race making such argument against any other race.
using that to reject the whole idea which does have some merits
I cannot see the merits at all. The whole idea of some races being more entitled to clothing/hairstyle/music/food etc. is ridiculous and inherently racist.
While the comic you posted may be almost fighting a strawman, it is not wrong in criticising the idea per se, just possibly criticising something quite niche and rare.
Your interpretation of reality is rather accurate, I agree with your view on the first panel. Is this a case of broken clock sometimes right though? I’m not sure.
The second panel places what appears to be a trans person in the role of the unpleasant character. Odd choice, especially for someone who typically doesn’t depict minorities like these. If the message was just as you say, it could have been easily delivered with a character that doesn’t raise questions about their gender identity. All this character needs is to be rude and look buff and ugly. Why choose someone of ambiguous gender for this if you also don’t consider this trait a part of the unpleasantness?
Oh I don’t think it’s at all intended to be a transgender person. It’s just a “evil, masculine woman” (aka woman that doesn’t make me horny and that I don’t like) trope. Like it’s a woman, but she’s hulking out. (Also enabling her to be strong and forceful, because there’s layers to the sexism lol)
For sure the only thing the artist gets right here is the reality that customer service switches up on you the moment you need something from them. The means by which it was depicted, while also reflecting reality, were chosen for completely confused reasons
Maybe, I don’t know. Perhaps I’m already so negatively biased against this artist that I presume the worst from the get go.
I’m not sure how these comics are translated, but they do sometimes result in rather funny sentences.
