Washington outranks Beijing as a threat in Spain, Italy, Belgium and Germany, according to POLITICO European Pulse survey.
      • Oskolki [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        19·
        3 days ago

        The most crucial aspect of Western propaganda is their abuse of their own people. One cannot simply escape the world they were born into, even if there is a different country it requires extraordinary effort for most workers to change citizenship. And even tourism is limited, the worker isn’t going to go to China, they’re gonna fly to Italy or more likely something as Egypt. Where tourism companies treat them like kings (while exploiting locals)

        Eventually the people who built this empire of lies perish, but their lackies have been sniffing their farts for so long they believe all their own lies, this is how the empire dies. It’s happened before.

      • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        371·
        3 days ago

        Authoritarian is a made up word that describes what every state does, but makes it sound scary. Every definition of authoritarian is either so vague as to describe every state or so specific you might as well just say [INSERT COUNTRY YOU ARE SCAREMONGERING ABOUT]

      • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        321·
        3 days ago

        By “authoritarian”, you mean “it doesn’t have neoliberal parties destroying the welfare or fascist parties destroying civil rights”, right?. As an EU citizen, I cannot even imagine how good it must feel not being under the constant threat of the destruction of the welfare state.

        The Chinese government has higher approval rates in China than any EU country in its borders, and Chinese citizens consider democracy highly important and their country highly Democratic:

        Also, yes, it controls a great amount of the world production. You can thank the gods it’s China controlling it and you won’t suffer a murderous embargo the way Cuba is forced to suffer at the hands of the west.

          • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            341·
            3 days ago

            It’s not really a fair poll when dissent is punished.

            Please provide a source for this statement. I have never heard about chinese people being punished for answering a poll wrong.

            We have more reason to trust chinese sources than western ones, considering the long and proud history of lying on behalf of the regime every big western source has. However since you are mired in bigotry havard studies show the same satisfaction

            • Hexamerous [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              14·
              3 days ago

              Here’s a good blogpost by Jason Hickel (the good one) that talks about possible skewed data and such: Support for government in China: is the data accurate?

              While the list experiment results are lower than what we see in direct questioning, they still indicate high levels of popular support, at around 62-77%. This is much higher than the levels of support for government we see in the United States (33%), France (31%) and Britain (29%), according to the most recent World Value Survey results. And it is higher even than what we see in the Scandinavian countries, which otherwise enjoy among the highest results in the world: Denmark (39%), Finland (42%), Norway (59%), Sweden (51%).

              • DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                4·
                3 days ago

                Yep, however from the article itself “List experiments have their own problems, however: researchers have found that because the questioning technique is more complicated, it introduces unintended reporting errors that may even outstrip errors from strategic misreporting. In other words, it may be that simpler direct questioning methods produce more accurate results.”

                It also goes into other methodologies based on this bias and if the bias even exists in the first place and at the end they conclude:

                In other words, people in China do not seem to self-censor based on fear. The authors conclude: “Across a variety of studies using different methodologies, a good deal of evidence suggests that the Chinese people are willing to answer politically sensitive questions in a truthful manner.”

                So, the questionaire results seem trustworthy still and the list experiment results might have a “wtf are they even asking me” bias (and still come out ahead of every other country).

            • hello_hello [undecided, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              13·
              3 days ago

              Liberals will never question why they have such stong emotional reactions to perceived injustices outside the empire and also be so emotionally numb to nightmarish atrocities in their own backyard.

              One fun saying ive read before but I sadly can’t attribute it directly (Xinjiang atrocity propaganda):

              White people hate Muslims. White people hate Chinese, but they seem to be in love with these Muslim Chinese.

              • huf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                4·
                3 days ago

                only that one specific group of muslims in china too! by and large they dont even know about the other muslim ethnic groups.

                by pure coincidence, the group they know so much about happens to be the one the US tried to use as a spear against china, among other things by spreading wahhabist nonsense amongst them.

                curious.