Normies can be reached and memes help. I’ve already gotten some “maybe we were too auick to judge China” reactions when I point out they execute child molesters.

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    It’s easy for a native speaker to stir up a fuss here and throw in crude insults. You don’t know me. The fact that you resorted to personal insults says more about your poor character than it does about me. The meme portrays China as the flawless, virtuous counterpart to the U.S., and I was right to criticize it by giving a few examples. I haven’t defended the U.S. at all; they’re terrible warmongers. Downplaying China’s transgressions strongly smacks of Chinese propaganda. No, I won’t follow your crude links. We have a free press in Germany that reports on issues such as the reeducation and purging of the Uyghurs. I don’t need your pseudo-lessons.

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      We have a free press in Germany that reports on issues such as the reeducation and purging of the Uyghurs.

      I know enough from this one sentence to know that you’re a piece of shit Zionazi who doesn’t actually give a fuck about Muslims other than to score points against your state’s designated adversaries.

      Thankfully this is hexbear where I am not bound by silly civility fetishism and have the free speech to tell you to follow your leader: i-am-adolf-hitler

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      Im not a native speaker. It’s also a weak attempt at deflection to suddenly focus on language, when that hasn’t been the source of critique for you. You’re bad at rhetorics.

      I dont know you, and yet I was right on every account. You haven’t engaged with the material provided, you still cling to long debunked propaganda. China is not and has never been purging Uyghurs.

      We have a free press in Germany

      And they say Germans have no humor. Anyway go get arrested for opposing Israel.
      If you actually read the “report” about Uyghurs in china, you’d realise how laughable it is. 7 anonymous sources interviewed are used to extrapolate data for millions of people - data that is disproven by the very sama dataset it uses. The report is supported by the purposely mistranslated “police files”. You’d know this if you actually investigated the things you claim to know of, or if you actually had a free press that did what journalists claim to do. But you don’t. You have a propaganda apparatus, and you trust it blindly.

      I haven’t defended the us at a ll

      Another poor attempt at deflection. Focus on what.

      Downplaying China’s transgressions strongly smacks of Chinese propaganda.

      If you look through the threat or even actually just read my comments, you’ll see noone is downplaying Chinas transgressions. You’re just not mentioning any, so we are correcting your misinformation. Spreading misinformation is what propaganda is. You’d do well to actually engage critically with what you’re presented by your capitalist media, instead of assuming they somehow don’t have an agenda or a bias.

      No I won’t look at your crude links.

      Called it. Scared to learn, content to continue to engage in a discussion that can go nowhere because your hubris handicaps you.
      At least learn about Cho Gonda

      edit: came up with an alternative dunk, here you go

      Downplaying China’s transgressions strongly smacks of Chinese propaganda.

      Downplaying the persecution of the german minority in the Sudetenland strongly smacks of bolshevik propaganda

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      we have a free press in Germany

      hahaha

      Anyway, please tell the class about how the KKKraut free press responded to the crackdown on Jüdische Stimme, the hitler-detector speech by Marco Rubio in Munich over a month ago and Merz’ comments on Iran and humanitarian law

      Marg bar Alman

      Anyway, when are the KKKrauts going to pay reparations for the genocide in Namibia?

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      My free press has just taught me how you guys chop off the head of a Muslim every day and force the rest to eat pork mixed with ground up Palestinians, yet you dare to speak on how others treat their citizens???

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      Das mit der freien Presse ist spätestens seit der causa Hüsseyin Dogru einfach nur ein kompletter Witz. Aber ja, technisch gesehen sind du, ich und Friede Springer absolut gleichberechtigt bezüglich dessen, was wir in unseren Tageszeitungen veröffentlichen.

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          I don’t know too much about it tbh, but as far as I know the laws are about racism and antisemitism in general. It is then up to the police to interpret what is antisemitic and what isn’t in order to prosecute. And then also up to the judges discretion if it goes to trial. So for example there is no law that explicitly forbids “From the river to the sea” (as far as I(!) know) but if it could get “reasonably” interpreted as antisemitic you’re fair game.

          So you’re at a rally and starting a chant or have a particular slogan as part of your speech, the whole rally could get disbanded and then they figure out the “exact legalities” later. The police are allowed to do mistakes in the name of combating antisemitism, you’re not.

          Again this is from kind of hearing and reading about it, not too knowledgeable about it.

          https://theleftberlin.com/how-germany-tries-to-ban-the-slogan-from-the-river-to-the-sea/

          Diese Mehrdeutigkeit sieht die Richterin nicht. Die Parole [from the river to the sea] könne nur bedeuten, das Existenzrecht Israels zu leugnen, da gefordert werde, einen palästinensischen Staat zu gründen, »für den Israel wegmuss«. Es sei »ganz klar«, dass damit das Massaker der Hamas gebilligt werde und damit Mord, Vergewaltigungen und dass Kinder massakriert wurden. Relevant sei nicht, was die Angeklagte für sich damit meine, sondern was bei unbeteiligten Dritten ankomme. Das Motto der Demo hält die Richterin für vorgeschoben, es sei offensichtlich nur um Palästina gegangen. Deswegen verurteilt sie die Angeklagte.

          https://www.nd-aktuell.de/artikel/1184315.from-the-river-to-the-sea-berliner-gericht-verhaengt-geldstrafe-fuer-umstrittenen-losung.html

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              Well yeah, germany was never really big on free speech, so people just don’t care. The majority supports our “reason of state”, due to decades of streamlined propaganda. Israel critique was fought against way before Oct. 7, that’s just when it became obvious. The sanctions are new because they are an extra judicial way of destroying any person without a way for them to defend themselves.

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      By “free press” you mean “dominated by capital,” and since capital dominates the German state, this also means it conforms largely with the views of capital from a legal basis as well. That’s why German press is so Zionist and tries to whitewash the Palestinian genocide, while going gung-ho into whatever mythologizing is useful to capital when speaking of enemies of the German state. The press and state both serve the dominant class in society, they cannot exist outside of that context. Outlets that run counter to capital are shunned, sanctioned, blacklisted, or minimized and undermined by the system itself, regardless of how truthful they are.