Oh, look… hasbara is still butthurt because people weren’t tolerating their white supremacist propaganda.

Stop trying to waste our time, hasbara.

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.

You are a blight upon the world. Leave.

The first question to ask, a basic of media literacy, is “is this feasible”. October 7th was an extensively planned and time-sensitive operation for everyone involved. When you’re conducting a surprise attack on multiple fronts, against an enemy that has immensely superior weaponry, surveillance, communications, and numbers to your own, every second matters. When every second matters, you can’t just take minutes to SA someone. Shooting someone who’s a threat? Quite possibly. Butremoved makes no sense in this situation.

The second question to ask is “what are the interests of parties involved and does the news make sense in their context”. From the accomplishment of the operation, taking hostages for bargaining purposes, it is clear that this was the main objective, with secondary objectives being to strike military installations, dispel the sense of Israeli invulnerability, and bring the plight of Palestinians to the forefront of global awareness. Trying to SA someone is counter to all these objectives: when you SA someone, they become a less cooperative hostage, you make yourself vulnerable, you lose out on options to take more hostages or hit more military targets, and you lose favor in the public eye.

The third question is “what is the power balance, and who has the ability to shape media narratives”. Israel is known to have a massive media spin apparatus, employing thousands if not tens of thousands of people. These allegations ofremoved serve the powerful against the powerless. Israel stands to gain from them, and Palestine stands to lose some of its goodwill.

Another approach is to look at other things that correlate with the story. We heard claims of massremoveds and claims of “40 beheaded babies” in the same breath from Israeli sources. There was never any images or other evidence provided of the beheadings (which also fail the other tests above), despite being lied about even by US government officials. We also have testimony of October 7th survivors describing how their captors were stern but respectful, and testimony of hostages saying how Hamas and their allies took a very arrogant pride in treating their captives “like good Muslims should”. Finally, on the other side of the illegal security partition, we have Israeli prisons, where people are held for years without being convicted and whereremoved and torture of detainees are commonplace. The public support for this is so firm that Israelis rioted against their military police doing an investigation of prison guardremoveds at Sde Teiman, a particularly notorious facility. We have a regime that is under strain, and needs every PR victory to marshal its society into the war of extermination, in order to avoid the coming of its own reckoning.

The IDF itself leads with the line “we are at war, and atrocities happen in war”. The united resistance makes appeals to standards for rules of engagement. It’s impossible to refute beyond a doubt whether anyremoved may have happened that day, but by and large, the orders and ambitions were not to do so. In comparison to other armed conflicts that ran across civilians, it seems highly likely that the incidence ofremoved from 10-7/Al-Aqsa Flood is much lower than average.

In this age of deepfakes and filter bubbles, answering these questions can take you a long way. This is the difference between critical thinking about media versus credulously accepting something that is stamped with a recognizable logo, and treating reality as an inconceivably long list of independently-assessable events rather than manifestations of broad patterns.

I’m sure Radio Mille-Collines had lots of official journalistical content talking about massremoveds just like the Dinah Project does. Would you give them credibility too?

I’m not going to say anything about deserving posts getting removed or not, but between falling for propaganda lies and punching down, you should be ashamed of yourself.

It is those who make a claim who has the burden to prove it. It is not everybody else’s job to disprove them. The Zionists’ have failed to present any proof for these racist claims that convinces independent observers

Zionist terrorist organisations are notoriously untrustworthy sources (Beheaded babies, kHamas command centres under hospitals, Iran being just about to have nukes).

lol

lmao even

when was the last time israel allowed independent investigations? they’ve been blocking those for years. I’m all for independant investigations of both sides, let’s get the UN investigators all up in israel’s bullshit. not just them, let’s get the ICC in there as well to investigate israel and hamas.

What’s "independent

Like amnesty which their reports focus on all crimes regardless who commit it. Amnestry has report about israel, russia , iran, china , hamas etc

It’s on the front page. Also sealioning is bad.

What part makes it look trustworthy to you?

Oh and the fact it has Gal Godot on the board

Or that they just made a book calling it their report

that’s not how this works. you make a claim, you provide evidence. nobody has to disprove your fairy tales when you didn’t provide any evidence to start with, you genocide supporting piece of shit.

No. You know you’re lying. We know you’re lying. Facts are nkt the sokution here. Facts wont change your mind. You dont give a shit about truth, so truth cannoy sway you.

You are a blight upon the world. Leave.

There is literally nothing to prove they have no sources but Israel and zero first hand testimony. Go away Zionist scum.

how is russia saying ukrainians are nazis propaganda? answer one, you answer both.

Have a think.

I do

Thanks for your 4th comment on Lemmy to date.

I ChadGPT’d a summary of it

ok so the dinah project is this super shady operation run by lawyer types who think theyre spies or something and theyre trying to solve this huge mystery of who did what during some fight and its all very suspicious

heres the thing

• its led by these hardcore legal geeks who probably spend more time arguing about parking tickets than actual crimes and they think theyre above everyone else with their law degrees and stuff
• funded by these mysterious groups who probably just want to look good or get free coffee or something
• claims to be all about stopping sexual violence in war but really its just a big blame game and a way to stir up drama
• they go around talking to the un and other big shots but nobody really knows if theyre trying to fix anything or just cause more problems
• people give them money and it all goes to fancy reports and powerpoint presentations that nobody really reads

so heres my take

basically the dinah project is just a big show with a lot of money and fancy words but does it actually do anything or is it just fueling more political bs who knows and thats the problem with all these so called humanitarian groups they just want to look good and get funding but they dont actually care about solving anything