• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Anyone around here have actual experience with ozempic? My dr has actuality suggested it for a potential heart issue, to help clear up the system i guess. But everyone online talks about it like it’s heroine

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      52 minutes ago

      I’m on Mounjaro for diabetes, have lost 35 pounds in two months. It’s a tool, with potential side effects, but for me it has been a huge jump-start for a lot of neglected health issues and overall energy levels.

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      1 hour ago

      I remember seeing this video where someone tearfully explained they got osteoporosis from being on it for a year.

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      I’ve seen several successes and I wouldn’t believe every story you hear in these forums. The data shows it’s relatively safe with minimal serious secondary effects. That doesn’t mean nothing to manage at all. Just like statins for cholesterol.

      Ozempic and variants are also considered short term. They essentially short circuit the desire for vices, but are only effective for about a year. You either relearn your habits or you’ll eventually revert. If you are in ozempic for 2 years on weight loss you’ve likely ignored your doctor.

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      My ex was on it for diabetes, and it caused gastroparesis in him and he ended up hospitalized for 12 days. His digestion has never been the same, and he’s in a class action lawsuit against the makers of Ozempic because it’s a side effect that they didn’t disclose.

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      4 hours ago

      Before going on Ozempic, read up on current medical research (not Facebook or such shit). They discovered some not-so-good long term effects recently.

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        4 hours ago

        Like many medications, you are balancing the risks of continuing with an unmedicated health problem or any negative side effects of the medication.

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          But with Ozempic there is some serious long-term shit going on, which is bad, as you basically have to take this stuff forever or bounce back hard faster than you saying “supersize this burger meal”.

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            I think most medications are meant to be accompanied with permanent lifestyle changes where possible. No, you should not take this drug “forever”. If you take ozempic for weight loss but choose to continue eating like shit then it isn’t the drug’s fault. Assuming of course there isn’t some other medical disorder leading to weight gain, but again, balancing the negative health effects of obesity vs any negative effects of weight loss drugs needs to be examined by patient and physician.

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              If you take ozempic for weight loss but choose to continue eating like shit then it isn’t the drug’s fault.

              That’s not how it works. Ozempic simply opresses the hunger feeling, therefor helping you lose weight. Problem is that still existing, but empty/depleted fat cells basically scream “we are hungry”, so as soon as you get off Ozempic, you basically can’t stop eating until you regained at least the former state. That was - for me - the reason not to start on Ozempic, it’s like the “bounce back” effect after a diet, but on steroids. That current research has found other issues (heart problems, ocular nerve damages) just enforced my rejection (I was offered this on a free prescription base).

              I think most medications are meant to be accompanied with permanent lifestyle changes where possible. No, you should not take this drug “forever”.

              That is a very idealistic view, at least on some medication. With Ozempic, this is basically impossible due to the circumstances written above, with other medications it is simply due to the fact that no “lifestyle changes” can change e.g. genetic defects.

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                You completely ignored the “permanent lifestyle change” aspect. It doesn’t matter whether the person in need of weight loss does it via diet and exercise or via diet and ozempic, the diet/lifestyle that they got themselves fat on has to change.

                You’re basically blaming the drug for the person’s inability to psychologically deal with diet. That isn’t what the drug does. No, you don’t need to eat back to your old weight, that’s the part where permanent change to diet comes in.

                I already stated a caveat for conditions that may be outside the user’s control, so don’t use that as an excuse for all users. Yet again, the doctor and patient have to discuss the risks. I’m done here.

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                  You’re basically blaming the drug for the person’s inability to psychologically deal with diet.

                  No, I don’t. I’m just stating facts on how the human body works. With extreme willpower you might be able to counter this for a time, yes. But it will be a serious uphill battle, and the messenger chemicals from the depleted fat cells do not just stop because you will them to. You will just have to live in a state of perpetual raving hunger then. The few who can successfully overcome this for a significant time are rare, indeed.

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            That’s… Not a side effect.

            That’s from people losing weight on their normal diet because of Ozempic, but never changing their diet for their new lower weight selves, so naturally they immediately gain it back.

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              You can’t eat the same way you did pre-Ozempic while you’re on Ozempic and still lose weight…

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              That’s… Not a side effect.

              No, it is just the way this drug works. You take Ozempic, it supresses your hunger feeling, and you automatically change your diet as you are not as hungry anymore.

              Problem is that the depleted fat cells still exist, and a depleted fat cell releases signals that scream “I’m hungry! Feed me!”, and the more they are depleted, the louder the call. While you take Ozempic, this is supressed, but as soon as you get off it, your body demands food to re-fill the depleted cells, and will not stopping before it has reached at least the former status quo.

              Just like the bounce back effect after a diet, only worse.

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      It’s more along the lines of: Could you benefit from it because of some legit medical issues. Then go ahead.

      Do you want to take it recreationally to fit in your new dress for the wedding 3 weeks from now without any lifestyle changes? Don’t take it.

      Ozempic is not some fun new “weight loss shot”, it’s a fucking necessity for people with diabetes. That includes Type I diabetes, which is due to genetics and not lifestyle choices.

      Recreational users have made ozempic scarce, raising the price to unsustainable levels for folx that rely on it to stay alive

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      When scientists warned that milk could be contaminated with bird flu and pasteurized milk was safe, they started drinking raw milk en masse. There is no logic for them.

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      mRNA vaccines carry a code for your cells to produce the viral protein shells, so not only is not a living virus, it’s never been the virus and could not be more harmless.

      It’s also impossible for it to alter your DNA.

      What it could do is be weaponized to produce prions or whatever but the dummies never cry about that (because you can disprove it easily)

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    12 hours ago

    Whatever they can hork down by the Big Gulpful, but penetration by a stranger? Oh, no. That’s for their leaders, in secret.

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    I don’t talk to people who are obviously unhealthy about matters of health. And there seems to be a trend with antivaxxers I’ve met.