For some reason listed all the way in the corner, I used to love Bandcamp but they are US based sadly. Always thought of them as the good guys but they are owned by Epic now so who cares. The French Qobuz should be a good alternative for buying DRM free albums, haven’t tried them yet though.
People give Spotify shit for paying artists awfully, does anyone know if this is better for Qobuz? I feel like revenue is always going to turn out bad when you’re not buying any albums. €15 per month for 2x access is just not that much over a few hundred listens.
Also like someone pointed out Soundcloud is German. Worth mentioning again. This doesn’t seem like a very carefully curated list, so I expect there to be a lot more options.
People give Spotify shit for paying artists awfully, does anyone know if this is better for Qobuz?
https://community.qobuz.com/press-en/qobuz-unveils-its-average-payout-per-stream
TL;DR: 0.01873$ per stream.
Epic divested itself of Bandcamp last year. I’ll continue supporting artists that way
Spotify are not a “big tech incumbent”?
What? They absolutely are lmfao, they absolutely dominate the industry in casual music listeners.
Oh I see what you meant… 🤦♂️
Definitely not FAANG or MANGA or whatever we’re calling it now.
I can also recommend soundiiz for transferring between them (its in that useful resources note in bottom right corner). I paid $5 for 1 month but was a few years ago
Qobuz includes a soundiiz subscription to allow you to transfer your playlists and favourites from other services.
Deezwr gives bonuses to bigger artists it’s really unfair
Qobuz is unavailable in Poland. So much for being European.
Additionally, Spotify highest quality, while not perfect for nitpickers, is actually totally fine and good enough for 99% of audio equipment used by consumers. If you play your FLACs through wireless headphones… oh boy you have some learning to do.
Qobuz also sells DRM free files in both high resolution and lossy file formats. https://help.qobuz.com/en/articles/10167-what-are-the-different-audio-formats-available-for-download
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@unsettlinglymoist @Sunshine
“Stop listening to that crap, here’s some real music!” 🤣Then again, I’m old, and I don’t understand why you’d want a computer program to tell you what music you might like 🤷🏻♂️
I was never a fan of a computer telling me what i might like. But i’m listening to music for 6 to 10 hours every single day for decades now. I can’t contain my music knowledge anymore, and to not get bored i need some: if youblike this you might like that. But also they are very wrong 99% of the time. But i still crave that 1% that is a banger and might have never found.
Discovering a new artist or album is great.
Tidals personalised daily discovery and weekly new releases are fantastic for this, much better than anything I can remember on spotify. Their “mixes for you” are also decent.
I haven’t tried qobuz yet
True. I think Qobuz is only good for people who already know what they want to listen to or are willing to wade through public playlists. Don’t expect to to get recommendations like Spotify or Tidal does…
I mean Spotifies recommendations haven’t worked out the concept of an instrumental playlist yet…
@UndergroundGoblin @unsettlinglymoist Isn’t it one of the reasons for switching away from US BigTech to escape from AI generated influence?
Im fine with AI/Algorithm generated recommendations. What I dont want are AI generated tracks.
AI is auch a buzzword that became meaningless. Before it was just called algorithm
Deezer has hi-res audio
I don’t get it, why doesn’t Torrents, the largest of the group, not simply eat all the other music services?
they did, that’s why spotify won
I did not know it had finished eating
Without Spotify, many Europeans will go back to piracy.
Bandcamp is US owned, but still worth mentioning I think because of their commitment to high revenue sharing, about 80-82% goes directly to the artists. They have custom playlists, and offer high quality formats as well.
If the goal is a quality product and an ethical approach to supporting artists I’m not dead set on only using European alternatives
They also have Bandcamp Fridays, where 100% of the revenues go to the artist. Personally I always wait till those days to buy music on there
May be worth mentioning that it’s not every Friday that this happens. I was under the impression that it was, and would have accidentally made a purchase on a random Friday if I had not looked further into it because I wanted to check which time zone was used for the cutoff.
The remaining 2025 dates:
- May 2nd
- August 1st
- September 5th
- October 3rd
- December 5th
I switched to Qobuz today. I used to use Tidal becaus I wanted to be able to get the best possible quality from a streaming service, and I wasn’t happy with the way Spotify pays the artists. But after Trump got elected and turned the world upside down, I kicked every US services out of my portfolio.
Qobuz feels quiet clunky, and the desktop application lacks some basic functionalitys, but overall I think it’s a good alternative.
Honestly another circle with “pays artists less shit than others” or “pays small artists at least partially” would be good. Fuck Spotify.
not listed but for those who also like classical, idagio is based in germany
Listing yt music first?
I don’t know anyone irl that uses it, Spotify and Apple Music are definitely larger
I don’t know of anyone using apple music
Lol at Spotify being one to consider over Apple Music when it has way more market share
