Summary
Over 350 rabbis, along with Jewish activists and artists, signed a New York Times ad condemning Trump’s proposal to force Palestinians out of Gaza.
The ad calls his plan “ethnic cleansing” and urges a permanent ceasefire.
Trump suggested Arab nations take in Palestinians and described Gaza as a future “real estate development.”
Jewish leaders compared his proposal to historical atrocities and denounced it as morally abhorrent.
Was the term Ethnic Cleansing not on the banned list, or is NYT allowing it because Trump is in charge instead of Biden now?
‘Outrageous’: NYT rejects Quaker ad that calls Israel attack on Gaza ‘genocide’
Trump called for ethnic cleansing instead of just doing it and calling it something else.
“Antisemitism!!” ~ Anti-Defamation League (probably)
Or maybe the Rabbies and Jewish-Community leaders are smart and realize that harsh/cruel treatment of other groups in the Middle East just opens Israel up to more violent attacks and further terrorist threats. I know this sounds like a hard pill to swallow, but if Trump really does force out all the Gazans, it will paint a bullseye on American interests in the Middle East for years. Including Israel.
No I agree entirely. I think the ADL has Netanyahu’s best interests in mind and not really the best interests of the Jewish people.
I just wanted to make a sarcastic comment about them conflating being against genocide with anti-Semitism.
These are Jewish Americans. A very sizable portion of them have absolutely no connection or loyalty to Israel, having emigrated from Eastern Europe to escape persecution by the Bolsheviks prior to WWII.
It’s far more likely you’ll find a Jewish New Yorker protesting with JVP than with Israel, for example.
What more of a bullseye do you want to paint than “yeah we destroyed all your infrastructure and murdered 50.000, more likely 100.000+ of you, but you can’t count your dead because we murdered most of your doctors and nurses too haha.”
And this is only the tip of the Iceberg. The US, Israel and their allies like the UK and Germany have left out no opportunity over the past decades to show their murderous white supremacism to the people from Morocco to Afghanistan and from Sudan till Bosnia. What prevents the Arab countries from rising against this is not the ignorance of the people, but the US and Israel funded and supported regimes like “bone saw a journalist” MBS or “please guys, i know i am bad, but not like Assad mkay?” Sisi.
Read the article. Remember, Jews =/= Israelis.
@Placebonickname@lemmy.world argues that they would act in the interest of creating better conditions for Israel. I dont see that, because the US and Israel already did everything they can to antagonize all the people.
I agree with your other comment, where you said, that these Jews want nothing to do with Israeli crimes and instead go for what is the legal and moral thing to do. This also aligns with their religion, where Israel violates many fundamentals of Judaism, according to many Rabbis.
Meanwhile Israeli lobby organizations like the ADL go around and attack Jews as “antisemitic”, while defending fascists making Nazi salutes like Elon Musk.
*Babbies
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Every single American that didn’t vote blue voted for this.
They were warned.
Every single American that
didn’tvoted blue voted for this.I’m pretty sure when you vote for the loser you don’t also vote for the winner.
Really? People kept harping on that exact point if I mused at all about voting 3rd party.
When you intentionally vote for someone who has no chance of winning, that is a different story. And I think you know that. If you vote for the person that has a chance of stopping a large number of the bad things that are happening right now and she loses, you did not vote for the winner.
I’ll try to keep that in mind when I next vote blue here in Alabama.
Maybe you should go out there and work for those candidates so they have a greater chance of winning? Even an hour every few days making phone calls or sending emails could make a difference.
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What are you even talking about?
I didn’t vote for Biden in 2024 because he wasn’t the candidate and I am in no way a single-issue voter. And now it doesn’t matter because I had to flee the country due to my daughter’s life now being worthless.
And now it is time for you to either deny the genocide of queer people in America that has begun or claim that it doesn’t matter.
Except yes it is true if you voted blue you voted for genocide. If you voted right you voted for genocide. If you didn’t vote you voted for genocide. Americans supported genocide across the board. There’s no way to escape that
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Who were they supposed to vote for? Give me a name please. And what did you do to help their candidacy?
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There’s not always a good option. Some would say that certain candidates shouldn’t have just supported genocide to the death, but that’s not the voters fault. Or maybe it is, moot point. The 100% stark truth is that every single American supported genocide. You are a genocide supporter. I’m a genocide supporter. Everyone in this thread genocide supporter. Time to accept it.
No. Sorry. I don’t accept that at all.
First of all, not everyone in this thread or even on Lemmy is American even though America is for sure the only country in the world.
Secondly, maybe you haven’t lifted a finger about this, but I dedicate at least two hours a week (down from four admittedly) to contacting anyone of prominence I can and working with human rights campaigns.
I don’t even know why you think U.S. elections are the only thing that matters in terms of a genocide that isn’t in America. Of course, now there are genocides starting up in America too. Maybe something should have been done about that.
It’s the same hate with a different face. These are the people who would be wearing red hats if they were born in the US. It’s a product of social media pushing content that outrages users to keep them engaged longer.
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What a profoundly stupid and non-sensical comment.
What a profoundly stupid and non-sensical comment.
I’d say you’re emulating me, but I’m getting upvoted and you’re getting downvoted. You’re just the broken knockoff version of something better (and smarter).
c/iamverysmart
Guardian running interference for genocide is disgusting.
In a news release accompanying the ad, Spitzer, senior rabbi of congregation Dorshei Tzedek in Newton, Massachusetts, said: “It is vitally important that we in the American Jewish community add our voices to all those refusing to entertain this insidious plan. Hitler’s dream of making Germany ‘Judenrein,’ ‘cleansed of Jews,’ led to the slaughter of our people.”
This gives me hope for humanity. Good people standing together is the only way to achieve anything good.
Wait but i thought a vote for kamala was a vote for genocide and trump was going to not do genocide
I think it’s time to stop dunking on people and start welcoming those willing to learn and do better.
Not mutually exclusive. People need to see messages like that to understand the link between their actions and those actions indirectly helping to cause the thing they wanted to stop in the first place.
As a socialist, it is frustrating seeing people take a correct stance: the genocide in Gaza is bad and we should put pressure on the political establishment and turn it into “so we’ll become politically disengaged, serving the interests of fascism to teach the liberals a lesson while making no meaningful progress toward stopping genocide”.
Like fire fighting fire, we could only stop kamlas genocide by doing trumps genocide.
Only a good guy with a genocide can stop a bad guy with a genocide.
Genocides don’t kill people. People kill people. With genocides.
They were and are the same genocide, there was no candidate with a reasonable chance to win that election who was going to hold Israel accountable either way
Just here to point out that both candidates would absolutely not have handled the situation in the same way.
We chose the worse option. And by “we” I mean every loser that didn’t vote blue.
Then maybe there should have been other issues. Oh well, too late now. No more legitimate elections at this point. So I hope people who didn’t want Harris are satisfied with the result.
Both were for genocide, but one was much HARDER for genocide. That guy was Trump, to be 100% clear.
I’m sure that’ll stop him.
If they hit 400 Trump would resign.
Should they have just kept silent instead?
Lol, I’m sure pedo-Don will read this with great interest.
Too little too late, ya fools. Those that voted blue tried at least…
Lib brain rot: you missed your chance to vote, there’s no other political action. Every victory was won by voting really hard. See you in 4 years.
Two years!!! Hopefully we (woman) can still vote.
Tried what?
Sounds like 350 new enemies of the state ready for a vacation to Cuba
Probably like half of Lemmy as well. We’ll all get to meet in person yay. The Lemmy gitmo meetup.
Lemmy island before Reddit island?
What was Reddit island? I don’t seem to remember that.
