• InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    How many months (years?) did the dems sit on this shit and delay making it public?

    Edit. I realized the delay might have been far longer than just months if they could have compiled the info during Trump 1.0.

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      How many months (years?) did the dems sit on this shit and delay making it public?

      Bill Clinton moved in the same circles back then, he did the same shit, so the dems were there while Trump did this.

      Some of this happened as far back as the 1980s, a lot of it is from the mid 1990s, a lot of the allegations on file are from Epsteins first trial, from the Maxwell trial or shortly before or after these, but a lot of it was not made public before. This has been going on forever and has been successfully covered up over and over again, with the redacting of the Epstein Files being the most recent cover-up. Apparently some Dems have gotten access to some unredacted files some time after that, so technically this was info they accquired during Trump’s second term, at least in this form.

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        The fact that new, specific Epstein-related allegations haven’t surfaced against Bill Clinton in the last few years is extremely odd. Although I can understand why none of his victims want to be like Juanita Broaddrick and start campaigning with Trump over it.

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          Or they’re scared of the entirity of Dem-adjacent media giving them the Tara Reid treatment. Coming forward with allegations against anybody this powerful is pretty daunting, you can also safely bet that there’s a lot more than these 11 women that could accuse Trump of CSA, but that they’re terrified of what would be done to them by the public.

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            Oh, absolutely. But even if no victims came forward to present themselves for character assassination I’m still surprised there’s nothing like “In 2019 the FBI interviewed Jane Doe, who witnessed Arkansas Man #1 on the island.” The only new thing about Clinton in the last few years was that joke from Epstein’s brother about Clinton and Trump having consensual sex.

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        Justice being done is contingent, in part, of getting the people responsible out of office because they control all 3 branches of government and basically all the agencies.

        It is also contingent on Democrats doing something about it once if that happens which I have STRONG doubts about.

        But, regardless of what Dems do, and while it is obviously a very cynical attempt to get leverage on the voting population, you do have to get these people out of office first if you want anything to be done.

        The many obvious points of failure here and the slim likelihood of getting anything accomplished is obviously why electoralism is insufficient at best and fatally flawed at worst, but if electoralism can be used to strip power from the people who need to be investigated and tried, then it should be used.

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    This is clearly a statement made to fortify the association between Trump and Epstein as early voting is underway and nothing will probably come of it but at this point it’s like, come on. We know he did it. The dems just seem complicit at this point if they’re waiting for when ids politically advantageous to release info.

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    Is this any new evidence or just a report from already public documents?

    For years, Trump has denied that he engaged in any sexual misconduct with any woman connected to Jeffrey Epstein, and he has also said that he knew nothing about Epstein’s crimes.

    Wasn’t he still running as the anti pedophile president in 2024?

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      Toward the end of his first term QAnon had already pivoted to “Well yes Trump is a pedophile but he was a GOOD pedophile who was undercover to catch all the other ones!”

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      The document contains witness accounts from 11 women: 5 accused Donald Trump of sexual assault and 3 say that Epstein tried to traffic them to Trump. The MSNOW article says that at least 1 of the accusations is entirely new.

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      The site rule says “Post images that depict triggering content should be marked NSFW.” The 50 page document does not have any images that are NSFW. There is no other mention of “NSFW” in the site rules or the comm rules. I intend to comply with the site rules and if there are stricter guidelines on what is NSFW, then the rules should be changed to say that. There should not be secret rules. Rules should be enforced as written.

      I added a content warning at the start of the post as instructed by the rules. I also spelled out “sexual assault” because some users were complaining they don’t know what “SA” means. If you see the content warning and don’t want to read a news story related to sexual assault, then don’t click on the post.

      This is a government document. This document was published by the US government for everyone to read. They’re discussing this story on daytime television.

      NSFW tag reduces the visibility of the story on hexbear and also on other instances. People need to know about a government document which alleges that the President of the United States was doing sexual assault.

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        This is based on a fuzzy recollection, so take it with a grain of salt, but I recall reading a recent post that requested SA/CSA-related posts be marked NSFW so that users who don’t want to engage with it can use the NSFW preference to filter it out completely.