White Nationalists #nazis showed up in Kamloops today to protest ahead of Truth and Reconciliation Day.

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    6 hours ago

    And not a one of them looks in the least bit imposing. Do you think they go home at night, look in the mirror, and feel inadequate? I bet they do.

  • guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    There’s a group like that in Southern Ontario that call themselves NS-13, or Nationalist 13

    They’ve had a few get togethers showing off their banners, but only ever last about 15 minutes before they fuck off or police show up.

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        1 hour ago

        We don’t have to be tough to eliminate the conservative threat. We just have to be willing to finish Sherman’s work.

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        Tell you the uncomfortable reality, these fuck wits have to be beaten every time the step out. Anything less and they think there is some sort of acceptance of them.

        Why do you think they use violence?

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        7 hours ago

        It is legal to be violent against civil rights activitists. The only time right wing people are prosecuted is after intense pressure applied on authorities and they know this.

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    14 hours ago

    Lmfao them wearing all black but then going out of their ways to wear white skimasks is so fucking pathetic

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    16 hours ago

    The Big Three news outlets in Canada pretty much ignored this story until the Kamloops local paper and social media picked it up. Now they’re all over it, pretending they were there first.

    And they’re all missing the crucial point.

    Second Sons are working very hard to stick to the rule of law, while instilling fear. They’re showing up in groups like this in smaller communities. They’re not in Calgary or Toronto or Vancouver, they’re north of Edmonton, or Orillia or Millarville.

    They show up, dress to intimidate, act to intimidate, but don’t actually threaten. They post overt dogwhistle slogans, “Je me souviens d’un Quebec blanc” or “Indian trucks kill canucks”) which they could plausibly explain away as something else, if forced to stand on trial.

    They’re getting bolder, which means they’re going to try to goad their victims into acting. They’ll obey the RCMP or local police (if the force is sufficient) without hesitation because as long as they keep showing up, as long as they keep scaring people, as long as they are able to avoid consequences for their actions, they’ll be able to hurt some people and recruit others.

    They need to be driven out by the people every time they show their…well not faces, but cowardly masks. They need to be not shot or injured, but maybe detained until the police can unmask and identify them by name.

    We need to publish their names. We need (and I can’t believe I would ever say this) to doxx them - to make them fear for their lives if they keep threatening society.

    We need to break the back of their movement, and the media isn’t helping one goddamn bit.

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      15 hours ago

      Rachel Gilmore does fantastic journalist coverage and a great job of calling out specific names and people associated with it. She has been threatened quite brazenly for it, but she’s also a badass that continues to do it. We need more Rachels.

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      14 hours ago

      I hope the RCMP takes this seriously but knowing cops makes me think they’re more apt to protect the fascists from anyone who tries to interfere with their intimidation tactics. I sincerely hope I’m wrong though, this shit is pathetic and needs to stop.

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    22 hours ago

    Hey Canadians,

    You guys need to snuff this flame out now. Whether through serious jail time, or even feeding them to the bears

    Don’t let the weed take root, otherwise you’ll wind up like the U.S.

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      15 hours ago

      It’s too late now, we already showed them they could march across the whole country and terrorize a city for weeks without repercussions. We need to take more action, absolutely, but I wouldn’t call this one a small or easy flame to take out anymore.

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      23 hours ago

      Sorry can’t kill an ideology with violence only create martyr and future flare up this is a job for education and address socioeconomic factors that allow vulnerable people to be sucked into supremacist gangs.

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        23 hours ago

        Two truths that are not in conflict with each oner: 1) fascism is a systemic issue and as ideology will outlive any individual; 2) fascist individuals should not be tolerated

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            Sure.
            70 years after we fought a war to defeat fascism, it has been resurrected under the guise of American conservative populisim, in no small part because people have forgotten the lesson of WWII.

            I mean, if you’re under the impression that we can somehow defeat fascism for all time then never ever have to worry about it ever again, then you’ll be sadly disappointed. Freedom requires vigilance.

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          22 hours ago

          “They say the prisoner of Spandau was a symbol of defeat Whilst Hess remained in prison, and the fascists they were beat

          So the promise of an Aryan world wold never materialize

          So why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died” - Chumbawumba

          (We didn’t kill enough Nazis the first time)

          • Hawanja@lemmy.world
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            15 hours ago

            Yet the decades after were the most prosperous in the history of the human race. Sounds like it was worth it.

            • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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              7 hours ago

              Not so. Not remotely. You know when the other most prosperous times were? After plagues, famines, wars, and other mass deaths. Not the gloat you wish it was.

              • Hawanja@lemmy.world
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                Not the gloat you wish it was

                Except what I said, which was “the most prosperous in the history of the human race” is 100% true. Quality of life for essentially everyone in the entire world went up in the 2nd half of the 20th century way beyond what they were before, even in countries like North Korea and Somalia. Advancements in technology, medicine, and globalization brought wealth to billions, much of which was due to the world order brought about by the allied powers.

                Also, not sure why you think fighting fascism in that war was such a bad thing. Do you really think we’d be better off if the Nazis were not opposed?

            • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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              7 hours ago

              That’s not how points of logic work. You only need one. If you reject some of them and others remain, you haven’t gotten anywhere except to be a distraction. Didn’t move the discussion anywhere.

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        21 hours ago

        Yea but it’s fun though. And most of these Nazis are middle class and have most of the world handed to them.

        If you can afford to dress like a Nazi you can afford to not be a fucking Nazi.

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    23 hours ago

    Patriot Front. Why is it always these losers?
    Must’ve been laundry day for that dipshit in the middle.

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      Society works because human evolution happens at the rate of learning and communicating new behaviors – exponentially faster and more effective than genetic evolution. The human genome has changed exceptionally little for hundreds of thousands of years, and so called “race” is the fantasy nonsense that its somehow possible to tell the contents of a person’s mind just by the light bouncing of their skin.

      I don’t think its enough to call it stupid, we gotta start attacking the root assumptions that drive the ideology.

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        Sure, but how do you stop a moron from perpetuating their destructive stupidity?

        It’s about their capacity to understand and behave reasonably. We got a long way to go.

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          You start with education. It’s not enough to just negate something (“racism bad”) you gotta replace it with a different idea. Otherwise it just sprouts back up. You would not believe the number of well meaning teenagers who’ve told me eugenics is actually a good idea if we could just do selective breeding programmes without the racism.

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            I do agree it starts with education, but I think we need to tackle more of a fundamental element of teaching people how to be a reasonable human that isn’t so easily jerked around by their base emotions. Otherwise stupid ideas will still reach and resonate with stupid people and the danger of creating a moron is still high.

            It seems like, in a way, you’re suggesting that I’m over-simplifying the issue but I think you’ve misunderstood me, and it’s ironic that I’m suggesting that your idea is the one that doesn’t go far enough.

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        22 hours ago

        But I like calling them big dumb doo-doo heads.
        Your way requires reading and shit.

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    1 day ago

    You can tell how brave and proud they are by how they hide their faces

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    Unrelated thought process. You know those youtube videos that are like “how many dinner plates does it take to stop a .50 BMG” and they start with like a .22lr and work up. Yeah, but not related at all to the lined up nazis.

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      21 hours ago

      Oooh and also completely unrelated, but I wonder how that hydraulic press channel is doing nowadays. I haven’t watched in years.

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    Imagine refusing so hard to take responsibility for your own life that you will blame all minorities instead of looking in a fucking mirror.

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      In their defense, it is hard to look in a mirror when you have a white hood on.