The United States has spent a record of at least $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since the war in Gaza began and led to escalating conflict around the Middle East.
  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    486·
    3 months ago

    Look at this. Complete destruction. This isn’t even an actual war. Its just extermination.

    • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
      284·
      3 months ago

      There is cities in Ukraine that look better despite two years of heavy fighting since Russias invasion.

      Fun fact. Israel sold drones to Russia which it used to target Ukraine for their bombers and artillery. And they did that after the russian invasion of Chrimea. Also Israel denied to support sanctions against Russia.

      Now Ukraine will probably be sacrificed to Russia so the US and EU can focus on helping Israel murder more Arabs.

      Truly a friend to the West.

      • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        171·
        3 months ago

        The only reason we didn’t arm Ukraine to the death immediately is because Russia has been the years since the Cold War extending its tentacles into the governments of the western world. We should have treated Ukraine like we are treating Israel now. They are actually defending themselves instead of using us to dominate their region.

        • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
          233·
          3 months ago

          “extending its tentacles” nice antisemitic dogwhistle you have there.

          • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            211·
            3 months ago

            I got it from this, can you point to me where the antisemitic imagery is in this picture?

            Or did you think of this?

            Either way, I’m confused how I can be antisemitic when referring specifically about Russia, who is not semitic in anyway.

            • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
              219·
              3 months ago

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

              Jewish Bolshevism, also Judeo–Bolshevism, is an antisemitic and anti-communist conspiracy theory that claims that the Russian Revolution of 1917 was a Jewish plot and that Jews controlled the Soviet Union and international communist movements, often in furtherance of a plan to destroy Western civilization. It was one of the main Nazi beliefs that served as an ideological justification for the German invasion of the Soviet Union and the Holocaust.

              Works propagating the canard

              The Octopus

              The Octopus is a 256-page book self-published in 1940 by Elizabeth Dilling under the pseudonym “Rev. Frank Woodruff Johnson”. In it, she describes her theories of Jewish Bolshevism.

              And the image of Propaganda you show there has the UDSSR, US, England and China in its arms. The whole tentacle image is heavily intertwined in antisemitic conspiracy bullshit.

              • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                10·
                3 months ago

                Ah, a book I haven’t read. While I do not know the contents I can assure you, as well as my post history, that was not my intention. It is a pretty succinct image of what Russia is doing though by installing Russian loyalists in Western governments. Like thats happening, I should not have to refer you to take a look at the current GOP to figure that out.

            • shaserlark@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              9·
              3 months ago

              I have no words for people like you who are genocide deniers. And I saw that you’re German too, ironic too given the history of your country.

              • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                19·
                3 months ago

                Lots of people are dieying in Gaza, yes. However it’s a war, not a genocide.

                The number of deaths would be far higher if Israel intended a genocide.

                Things can be bad without being a genocide.

                Contrary to you I know more about genocides, also because of where I come from.

            • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
              41·
              3 months ago

              That’s only because they haven’t been able to count the dead because they’ve lost the capability. Doctors coming back to the US from Gaza are positive that dead have increased to around 100,000, although ice also seen 200,000 but no one knows now, due to many deaths under rubble, or due to starvation or disease that aren’t able to make it to medical facilities. They don’t basically don’t have the capacity to count too much more.

              • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                14·
                3 months ago

                If you actually read the source in Lancet, you would know that this is an estimate without any evidence.

                The estimate is originally from months ago and hasn’t accumulated any evidence since.

                The Hamas run health ministry not only counts bodies, but also other people they have some proof that they died. For example if people are known to be buried in rubble, they are already counted. Granted not all bodies under the rubble are counted.

                However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

                • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
                  41·
                  3 months ago

                  However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

                  Says who? Israel? I don’t think you understand exactly what’s happening over there. The devastation is everywhere. Millions are displaced. The health ministry is extremely overwhelmed. Not everyone buried in rubble, starved, or sick is being counted. Whole families are being obliterated with no one left to go over and report their missing or dead family members. There will be tons of missing people who will never be confirmed, because of all these factors. Not to mention, Israel is keeping the fog of war extremely high, not only with all the bombs but the targeted killings of doctors, aid workers, and reporters and journalists.

                  The estimates are in numerous places. There are the ones by the Lancet, but the letter by the 99 doctors and aid workers who were just in Gaza have their own that’s higher, too. The point is, it’s being corroborated by experts who are actually there, along with being based on past situations like this. I think the doctors actually dealing with this crisis who are on the situation on the ground have a better idea of what’s happening than you do.

    • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      3 months ago

      Most of the aid—approximately $3.3 billion a year—is provided as grants under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program, funds that Israel must use to purchase U.S. military equipment and services.

      So this is also another way for congress to ferry money into arms companies in their districts.

    • Doorbook@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      3 months ago

      Invading the region and calling it another US state would have been a better deal for the US that blowing money in useless wars they will never win.

  • Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    3 months ago

    Spending the money on weapons in the first place, here or Israel, is the grift. Tax dollars should be spent on proper health care or free college

    • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      Not to mention green energy, what with all these hurricanes that will continue to be increasing in intensity and quantity.

  • assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.worldEnglish
    214·
    3 months ago

    It cost about 10 billion to end homelessness in America for a year. You could have had that, but instead America’s leaders want to kill Gaza’s children.