Imagine you would see a fact that contradict your deepest believes, the core of who you are. This fact is uncontestable, is evidence in its purest form, is something that happened and you know with 100% certainty that it happened. But this fact also is against what define you as a person, your most profound thoughts. Either political, religious , philosophical or moral believes, whatever sits deepetin you.

Do you think this evidence would make you change your mind, or not?

  • Aeri@lemmy.world
    1·
    10 hours ago

    I mean it would probably fuck with me pretty bad. But ultimately I’d probably accept it Ifthe proof that as airtight?

  • sunsofold@lemmy.zip
    2·
    1 day ago

    If I had my understanding of the world that deeply shaken, I’d be in the throws of Lovecraftian insanity. I would have even less certainty of anything than the already low certainty I have now. That’s a ‘vampire problem.’ There’s no way of guessing what I might do if I was that fundamentally derealised.

  • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
    18·
    3 days ago

    If it’s presented coherently and I can clearly map it against my own preconceived notions, yes.

    If it’s a bunch of sloppy catchphrases that would require me to do a bunch of work and research to unpack their argument and THEN apply it to my world, no.

  • CombatWombat@feddit.onlineEnglish
    6·
    3 days ago

    Absolutely. There are things that I believe that I know in my very heart of hearts are incorrect, and I simply have to believe them to continue operating as a human being. For me, it is much more important that an idea is useful than that it is correct. You can tell me as many times as you want that as one human of 8 billion on a tiny planet on the outskirts of an unremarkable galaxy that I simply do not matter, but I’ll never stop believing that I do.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      snap

      you no longer exist thus your position and any argument you may have had for it is irrelevant.

      …also like, he mainly said he did it because too many people = they starve and fight over scarce resources.

      ecological systems will generally maintain a steady state so long as they can adapt to gradual changes, are not exposed to virulent invasive species, and do not have rapid population booms.

      Thus, just snap to alter the genetics of species that tend to overbreed/overconsume in a resource rich environment to have proportionately lower fertility rates when their environment is seemingly abundant, or just, in general.

      But nope, this doesn’t occur forehead folds man, who is, i will remind you, a genius.

      He decides to be an invasive species via his imperial expansionism, and then to massively unbalance every ecological system in the universe that involves sentient/sapient species… two things that are guaranteed to exacerbate and cause the thing he says he wants to stop or prevent.

      Bro doesn’t understand ecology or biology, he just has PTSD and CTE he erroneously thinks is stoicism.

      Its like being presented with the trolley problem, but you have magic god powers that can just slow the trolley to a gradual stop…and then throwing the switch lever anyway.

      Its …really just bad writing, especially given that a fair number of the Avengers themsleves, in universe, should canonically know what I just explained. But this never occurs to any of them either.

  • Elting@piefed.socialEnglish
    6·
    3 days ago

    I would hope I could change my mind in light of overwhelming evidence, but likely I would rather make note of an alternative view and quietly reject it. Perhaps sitting with the evidence for a long time would make it more tenable to me.

  • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    3·
    3 days ago

    Yup, had that happen to my a bit just last week … and it’s almost painful to change one’s beliefs, but for me there’s no way out of it.

  • moondoggie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 days ago

    I don’t have any beliefs that define me as a person and don’t really have any deepest believes. I grew up in the south for almost 30 years, moved to the west coast for five, then over to the east coast for another 20. Politics, religion, philosophy, and morality are all a sliding scale depending on what and how much is around you. Things are what they are where you are. The farther you expand your circle, the more room you have for new viewpoints. People everywhere are amazing and kind, people everywhere are boring and shitty. You’ve gotta keep your mouth shut and your mind open until you get the lay of the land. Then you find your family and grow together.

    Still, I’d rather be dogmatic than catmatic.