Well, I guess the plant got what it wished for - it has been spread around the globe by humans.
One of the most successful species of all time
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The pepper in the meme is already highly domesticated. The OG pepper is the chiltepin. They grow wild here in Texas and all over Mexico, and they’re a woody perennial. They’re tiny but hot af and great to dry and crush up or to make hot sauce with. I can get 200 off a single plant each season.
The “OG pepper” is likely already gone: the Capsicum genus started branching off 17mya, way before we humans colonised the Americas. It was probably from the Andes as it’s where you have the biggest clade diversity; including barely domesticated species, such as C. chacoense and wild ones like C. eximium:
If I had to take a guess chiltepín is probably a landrace, a wild-ish descendant of domesticated C. annuum.
You seem like an authority in the subject because you used the scientific names instead of the common names, so I’ll take everything you said has fact
I’m not authority by all means. Just someone who’s cross-breeding peppers at home, and had to read about this stuff to know if my goal (four custom pepper varieties) is even viable with the varieties I have at hand.
The reason I used species names is because it’s cleaner — plenty species have multiple cultivars, cultivars often have local names, and some of those don’t even have an English name.
so I’ll take everything you said has fact
Please, don’t. It’s good to check info people mention in social media.
Info on diverging 17mya: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/feel-the-burn-new-world-chilies-traced-back-nearly-17-million-years/
Biggest clade diversity being in the Andes: check this map, focus on Bolivia. The association between clade diversity x geographical origin is a common rule of thumb biologists (and linguists) follow.
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure lol. Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure
If you don’t, then there’s no “OG pepper”. Multiple species in the genus have been domesticated, cross-bred, spread, and used by funny monke “MOUTH HOT”.
Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
Both things are mutually exclusive, since landraces require previous domestication. If it’s a LR then even for that specific species it isn’t the OG, the OG would be its ancestor.
People are fish. You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist 😂 And we don’t even know that it’s a landrace for certain, you just said you’re “guessing” this
People are fish.
No, that is not the case of picking a paraphyletic definition and treating it as a clade (“people are fish”).
I’m pointing out that whatever they find “in the wild” in Mexico and neighbouring countries is already the result of humans spreading this stuff everywhere, after years and more years of funny monke, so no matter what you call “original gangsta” that is not it. Anyone with basic reading comprehension (unlike you) can get it.
You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist
Yeah, because I totally invented the definition of landrace. Suuure. I also invented the aeroplane. /s
😂
I also invented emojis, “lol” and “lmao” because they’re all great ways to force braindead morons and pass-aggro shitlets to out themselves as such.
you just said you’re “guessing” this
Yeah, and you clearly did not understand what I was guessing.
Not bothering further with you.
EDIT, directed at other users (the above won’t understand anything too complex): my guess was correct, chiltepín is indeed a landrace.
The link also mentions «Chiltepins are often referred to as the “mother of all peppers”, but it has a more recent rich history along the US and Mexico borderlands». This explains rather well that 1) the chiltepín pepper was introduced there, and 2) why the American nationalist is throwing such a cringe tantrum, at the idea peppers originated elsewhere.
I didn’t know I was talking to Cannaflight M Aeroweed
Now you do! You’re also talking with the guy who invented fire. And internet shitposting!
You just bothered real hard lol
The original pepper was a fish!
It’s fish all the way down
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore
20k-140k SHU is a big range, not the hottest around but it might be a bit like gambling! Habanero is around 150k so in the same ballpark.
mother nature didn’t expect anybody to evolve masochism
Humans: Let’s add this plant’s ‘mammal deterrent chemical’ to those bird’s ‘predator deterrent wings’. That’d be a tasty treat
Hey that fruit looks like a giant scrote. Let’s crush it and add deterrent chemical
Psilocybe Cubensis: Behold, I contain compounds that greatly impair a brain’s thought patterns and perception of its surroundings. This will deter organisms from consuming my fruiting bodies, allowing them to reach full maturity and drop their spores.
Humans: Yoooo there’s that mushroom that makes you see God when you eat it!
Me who got a stompy bottle of ‘Da bomb beyond insanity’ hot sauce for her birthday last year. 😅
I had a bottle of that stuff fall out of the fridge and break on the floor. Not a fun clean-up.
Years ago one of my older cousins was looking after me and had a cabinet full of various hot sauces. Decided to challenge me to try all of them with crackers and see if either of us would give up. Neither of us gave up 😤. Da Bomb I remember quite well. Mean on its own. Taste not great, heat hits immediately with no build up. I can see why Hot Ones keeps using it lol.
It’s just pure rage in your mouth 😄
Technically worked lol
I’ve got scotch bonnet, habanero, and aji rojo pepper plants in the garden. Can’t wait to make hot sauce this year. bouncing back and forth
The most advantageous trait any plant or animal can evolve is being delicious to humans.
Or cute. Take a look at how much we spend on trying to save the pandas.
Of kittens were going extinct, you better believe we’d do just as bad
Yeah but that endorphin rush tho
Tbf, humans are the least sensical animal on the planet.
We are genuinely freaks of nature.
Two varieties of Scorpion, a Peach Tiberius Mauler and a Dragon’s Breath sunbathing in my backyard. Hail Capsaicin!
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