• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    FDR was much closer to being a Social Democrat than a Democratic Socialist. They sound similar but are quite different. Hell I think Bernie is closer to a Social Democrat, too. He praises the Nordic model and they’re textbook social democracies.

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      2 years ago

      I’ve always felt that’s just pragmatism from Bernie, and in truth he’s ideologically a democratic socialist. If it makes any difference this is coming from a democratic socialist who’s a member of a social Democrat party.

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        2 years ago

        I’ve always felt that’s just pragmatism from Bernie,

        If you read his book “It’s Okay to Be Angry About Capitalism” it becomes very very obvious that this is the case. From quoting very radical anti-capitalists to tongue and cheek (somewhat) insider jokes such as naming the chapter on his time in mayoral politics “Socialism in one City”, it shows he’s definitely way more ideologically aligned with socialism than people give him credit for.

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    2 years ago

    We have to face that loads of high ranking “moderate” Dems would prefer a Republican to a progressive.

    If a Republican gets in office, it makes it easier to get people vote lesser of two evils.

    If a progressive gets in office, it’s really hard to unseat them. They can barely manage to get House Reps out for moderates even with AIPAC money.

    If Bernie had won 2016, he’d have gotten to name the DNC chair, he could of solidly ended in the failed neo liberal experiment.

    We were really fucking close to fixing things, but after NH got their delegates stolen, I don’t think itll happen.

    I honestly think if a real progressive wins a presidential party primary, the standing party might disregard it.