Platner will basically be the new fetterman. fetterman was genuinely insane from the start and nobody just clocked it because he was pro gay and pro weed, but Platner will be a progressive militarist and it was clear from the start. americans obsession with vets is weird and it will not get any better due in part to people like hasan refusing to “offend” them.
It’s because they are genuinely incapable of understanding how epistemology works, and that if you have a ‘pro police progressive’, that doesn’t mean shit for socialism. Also you cannot be ‘pro-police’ and ‘pro-labor’, they are diametrically opposed class groups.
Holy fucking shit this clip is so wonderfully wrong on basically every single point hahaha
I don’t really hate Hasan but this is so fucking funny to me
We’ll get to do the same in a few years with Platner. And then a few year after that with whoever the next fascist asshole they decide to rally behind next. They are, like all libs, completely incapable of learning
lmfaoWho is “we”? Who are you? If you are trying to claim that Hexbear was largely anti-Fetterman in 2022, that is not true. You can search Fetterman in the hexbear search and click sort by old.
I was the first user to post on hexbear that Fetterman supported Israel’s Genocide in Gaza and the responses were mostly surprised by that. Look at the thread below.
https://hexbear.net/post/872018
You can posture that you knew things beforehand. Post histories show something different. Hindsight is 20:20. Hexbear mostly made the same mistake that Hasan made in this video.
You know, in 2022, the lemmy/hexbear/lemmygradc as well as leftist organizations globally was also cheering on the Mossad WLF rioters and terrorists in Iran and those who pushed back were banned. Defending Hamas was unacceptable but it was okay to support the “Communist Party of Israel”. I wish I was making it up.
The reason why that changed thank God but the yankees still fall for AOC/Mamdani/Platter whatever is because discourse advances only under the shadow of the barrel of the gun. (Or the missile.) Yankee politics are cursed until or unless that moment.
When did I say hexbear?
You wrote “we literally warned them about him in 2022” in the title. Who is we? Lemmygrad doesn’t have posts against Fetterman 4 years ago either.
I am a tankie. My friends and I have been saying this about Zionist Fetterman and his pinkwashing since 4 years ago.
…“the left”? It’s literally in the post title. I am so absolutely ridiculously sick of people on this site getting so incredibly hostile for literally no fucking reason. Stop bullying comrades it’s an unproductive waste of time.
“the left” is not a organization. it’s a vague amorphous blob. I could equally say that “the left” was naively optimistic about Fetterman in 2022. Why is it hostile to point out that Hexbear was doing the same thing that OP accuses Hasan of doing in 2022? I thought Hexbear liked to do self criticism? Why shouldn’t we acknowledge when something was a common mistake. Posturing is unproductive.
You’re not participating in self crit you’re participating in "ha ha I told you so"ism
No. The title of the thread is an “I told you so”. I am not doing the “I told you so”. If you look at the link that I posted 3 years ago, I didn’t even say “I told you so” then because I didn’t think it would be productive to cast judgment at that time either.
What I am saying is that people are applying a criticism to Hasan that they don’t apply to themselves. I recognize that people make mistakes. The purpose of this thread was clearly to mock Hasan and say “I told you so”, as written in the post title. However, since I pointed out that many users made the same mistake, you now think that I intended to mock those users and say “I told you so”. I think that people recognize their mistakes and hopefully learn from the mistakes. People shouldn’t cast judgment while being guilty of the same mistake.
We won’t acknowledge the mistake because we will do it again for AOC, Mamdani, etc. etc.
The electoralists truly never learn. They have an unfalsifiable orthodoxy, where the “harm reduction” fallacy overrides any Marxist theory.
There are users in that thread who seem to not be surprised and have warned against him previously, funnily enough they are now banned.
This forum does have an issue with banning the people who are right too early.
The thread that I linked was the turning point. I pointed out that people should search “fetterman” and sort by old. There are many earlier threads which held Fetterman in a positive view. The thing is, Fetterman never claimed to be a socialist and was always pro-Israel.
example
Yeah I mean both those threads are very embarrassing, there are users in there trying to warn people though they just aren’t at the top. One user brought up his racist knife threats, someone else is downplaying it. Another is warning of getting consumed in succ dem electoralism, the normal harm reduction arguments are trotted out.
It is funny that the two OPs are mods/former mods. Not sure why there is such a high rate of electoralism brain among the mods here, it’s totally incongruous with the user base.
