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  • I don't think what you are engaging in is a net negative. Any engagement is good, though it would be better to be doing it irl, obviously. I'm the same way, it's not that what I view you doing as harmful, just not really theoretically correct. My thing is that it is basically one step forward, one step back. Now, maybe that step backwards is necessary to take two steps forward, idk, but I am personally arguing that it isn't and feels like we are making more work for ourselves in the future.

  • All I know about you and whatever sect you claim is that you appear to be allergic to reading things in the context that they are written, and for some reason blame Stalin for the Molotov-Ribbentov Pact when it was an agreement among the Bolshevik Party, who did everything they reasonably could to prevent the destruction and death of millions.

    How is it when you have a choice to organize independently, to not vote for the genocide party with no actual physical consequence to yourself, you still balk and say 'Politics isn't about making friends.' but then simultaneously turn around and blame the Bolsheviks for an unhappy political compromise that they were forced into making to prevent the deaths of millions, a political compromise that is likely what ultimately allowed the USSR the time to organize and defeat the Nazis.

    You speak of wisdom and present nothing but mealy-mouth genocide-enabling tripe. As I said before, you have no love of wisdom, you are wisdom illiterate. But go, relive Spain in modern times, blame Stalin for the structural failings of the late USSR, I'm sure that will have any relevance and bearing on a modern leftist political program.

  • Revenue - Expenses = Profits

    Be sure to note this for the test.

  • You misunderstand me.

    It's not about taking treats away, it's about how you understand reality. If you go with video games as your entry point, you will inevitably have to contend with 'git gud' culture, which is logically and structurally reinforcing. This is because games are a super-structural entity that reflects the dominant culture. Our goal, as Marxists, is to understand, and help others understand, the base that creates this super-structure, not to explain the base using the metaphor of the super-structure, because that makes the super-structure seem natural, permanent, and inevitable, when it is anything but.

    As such it works ONLY as an entry point, but then must be immediately discarded because it is a metaphorical construction.

    We work best when we lay out these fundamental truths in easily explicable ways that accurately describe reality, and are believed not because we use good metaphors, but because we can accurately describe and explain a person's lived experience, and give a reasonable method forward. Our struggle at the moment is presenting the reasonable way forward, not accurately describing reality.

    For example, you can say 'Use a better meta, join the union.' but that does not combat 'Fuck you, I don't need to play the meta, I'm just built different.' which is an incredibly common attitude among gamers because most gamers are complete shit at games.

    If you instead go, 'Join a union, at least then you can know the face of the person that is fucking you.' that usually gets a better response because usually people know they are getting fucked, and think that they will also be fucked by the union, but if you present it as a misanthropic but clarifying action, they will be in favor of it. This doesn't work when people don't think they're getting fucked, but those people are a minority. It also is an entry point that fundementally misunderstands Marxism, but it at least sidesteps the issue of the super-structure.

    Ultimately though it about who your audience is, I agree. If you are successful with it and manage to translate it into real understanding, I applaud you.

  • It's because video game theory begets video game logic. It is further mediating and alienating yourself from reality as opposed to exposing yourself to it. The desire of the isekai isn't to experience reality with explicable video game mechanics, it is to escape reality into a world of explained video game mechanics. Language is already a mediation, further going to a world of metaphor is adding another layer of obfuscation.

    I've never been opposed to it as an entry point, but it inevitably spirals into tier lists and meta talk, which are not compatible with Marxist thinking. If we are to make metaphors here, reality for Marxism is more like a 90's point and click adventure game than any modern game. There is alot more backtracking and absurdist puzzle solving than most people enjoy. Once the logic is uncovered, it makes sense, but usually only in hindsight, and sometimes not at all.

    The only thing I do advocate for using videogames for is that the entire thing is a developed experience created by humans. No video game is naturally occuring, just like human society.

  • The worst part is when you do get hired and actually attempt to be a leader and do the things that you said you were going to do, they will actively resist you because you are 'undermining their authority in the workplace', because they don't actually do anything on a day to day basis.

  • See, here's the problem with that. Marx's Address to the Communist League clearly is in agreement with my particular political programme. Which, no shit it should, I cribbed it from him.

    There are, in particular, two passages that are extremely important to note and apply to the American context.

    "The relationship of the revolutionary workers’ party to the petty-bourgeois democrats is this: it cooperates with them against the party which they aim to overthrow; it opposes them wherever they wish to secure their own position."

    This is most likely the passage that you are misinterpreting. To cooperate against the party they wish to overthrow does not apply to the national Democratic party because the national Democratic party does not wish to overthrow the Republican party. They wish to consolidate the gains of the Republican party for big capital. They say this repeatedly. To paraphrase, "America needs a strong Republican party." - Nancy Pelosi.

    If anything, this address would have us helping the Republicans, as they are the party that is most represented by the American petite-bourgious.This is, of course, a gross misapplication of theory because both parties are inevitably primarily representatives of big capital. We are not in a German 1850's situation where there is a party that wishes to overthrow the Kaiser, and establish a republic, we are in a situation in which the liberal republic has already been established and centralized.

    To whit,

    "But they themselves must contribute most to their final victory, by informing themselves of their own class interests, by taking up their independent political position as soon as possible, by not allowing themselves to be misled by the hypocritical phrases of the democratic petty bourgeoisie into doubting for one minute the necessity of an independently organized party of the proletariat."

    This is the penultimate point of the piece and where we reside, which is pretty damn clear, and exactly what I was advocating for in the previous post. I advise you to actually read what you claim to have read in the historical context that it exists in, in order to not misapply it to our historical political situation.

    But you can do whatever you want, it is unlikely that you are actually a member of any party I am a part of.

  • It's arguably the most important modern theoretical work concerning how we experience modern society and it's completely mediated experience in the so called first world under capitalism. More personal than Inventing Reality.

  • Oh, you're so clever, I'll bet you were a real hoot with all the other philosophical illiterates on reddit. No comment on the concentration camps either. Typical.

    Where did I say do nothing? Organize your labor, learn to use a gun, get to know your local political situation and figures, and get away from thinking about things in terms of Democratic party politics, especially at the national level.

    We are fighting a retreating action at best, but you will find no friends in the halls of national government, to get and stay there you have to be bought and paid for.

  • I tend to remove filler words when I read automatically, which really speeds up the process. It's completely involuntary though.

  • They didn't just not close down the concentration camps, they expanded the concentration camps! The fascism is here, you can't slow it down, it is all around you, you breathe it in every day, so much so that you can't tell the stench. Don't lecture me on the steps when you can't even do step one. I know who my enemies are, do you?

    You can't foil the Democrats conspiracy to lose because when they win they will still just do fascism, just more quietly and competently so people like you stop mewling. They actively square the circle of imperialist politics. If you can't organize while the savagery and contradictions are open and apparent, you will never be able to organize when a Democrat is in charge obfuscating the process.

  • Here's the thing, why would you ever assume that the Democratic party has ever had an interest in 'doing anything'? They are the ones who, when granted the political writ, doubled down on neoliberal economics and funding the war machine back in 2010. And you can go back even further to see that they are always, always doing similar things, no matter what the political mood of the country is. All they do, and literally what they tell you they do is 'Be the Republicans but smarter.'

    What if I'm not interested in that? Then it isn't in my interest to vote for the Democrats and this supposed propaganda isn't my personal undoing.

    The Democrats don't do things for people because the party is literally defined by ripping out the levers and mechanisms of power that make the party even mildly accountable to the people, as people became even mildly radicalized. The Republicans, on the other hand, appear very accountable to their base because what their base wants is good for capital. If their base suddenly didn't want those things, they would be cut out just as fast as the Democrats did to theirs (Which btw we are starting to see in real time wrt Zionism within the party.)

    It's not bourgeois propaganda, it's literally just having a memory longer than the last year. Truth is the most effective propaganda.

  • These are usually the types who say that we need to move past Marx without actually reading any original Marx.

  • Except you can, because you can be held for months without a conviction in this country, and forced to work 'for pennies'.

  • Why would they destroy one of their most effective allies?

  • Or you could just be self-conscious, work a normal ass job, advocate for wealth equality, and try to be a decent person to others?

    I know several rich kids who do that and are fine. Nobody ever holds it against them for being normal or even just a bit annoying. The issue is that there are a lot of them who try to compensate for their parent's success by exploiting everyone around them or use their position to create academic justifications about how everything is great for everyone and nothing needs to change actually.

  • Honestly the same thing can be said about a Christmas Story. It was released with little fanfare in the 80's but basically became a cult Christmas classic in the Midwest. Really still holds up, with only a little bit of racist humor against the Chinese at the end (but honestly they portray them as doing their best to give great customer service and everyone actually enjoying their experience).

  • I wonder if they even know how to use the Adobe Suite properly.

  • Of course. Revolutions are moments of social inflection, where rationality can be enforced upon the irrational chaotic social system. This is basic Marxist-Leninist thought. That is why a vanguard party must be formed, they create the coherence necessary to the enforce that rationality, without it the revolution either fizzles, is crushed by the state, or descends into score settling with no larger social program.

    If a revolutionary moment broke out tomorrow, historians wouldn't write about it other than as a footnote because it would get crushed because there is nothing enforcing coherence on the moment.