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  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • That's a pretty good point. Idk, I guess if I was going to read stuff from a pedophile I would rather it be from ancient Greece, guess that is where my bias lies lol.

  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • Ugh fuck I literally cannot help myself.

    I don't know if you want to learn about love from people who notoriously groomed their female students for Sartre's pleasure. Like, maybe it is a French v.s. American cultural difference, but the fact that they would usually completely abandon their protege professionally when the sexual relationship was done speaks volumes to what they actually cared about.

    Not that either of them don't have interesting things that they have written about, but taking their writings on love seriously without considering their actions is like taking Chomsky's political philosophy seriously after the revelation of his close association with Epstein. These things must exist in context to the material world around them. The author may be dead, but I can still smell their corpse rotting.

    Idk, I never even know what questions I actually have until I actually read something.

  • How most Marxists use dialectical materialism wrong

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  • Do you mean to say that an idea is portrayed as a non-physical, non-material thing that is independent from reality? If both are codependent on reality, idk if there really is a contradiction there, unless there are actually saying that the mind is a material, physical thing.

    That said, I don't think the nature of 'the mind' outside of it's still kinda undetermined relationship to the body has been determined well enough to speak on it outside of the purely philosophical.

  • So how much do you think Russia interferes with US politics?

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  • The plots that have surfaced have basically been funding weird basically irrelevant fractious groups of 'leftwing' cultists like Black Hammer, and random rw influencers.

    I would assume that their media presence is much higher for countries that have Russian speakers.

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    Bulletins and International News Discussion from December 15th to December 21st, 2025 - Never Trust A Western Peace Deal - COTW: Democratic Republic of the Congo

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  • Chinese buyers will just have to purchase through Chevron. I don't want to keep banging the drum here, but Chevron is still unsanctioned. The goal of the operation atm isn't necessarily to actually fight with Venezuela, it is to funnel any and all oil revenue that Venezuela does make through a U.S. company. You just have to wonder ATM if the operational costs are anywhere close to the money they are making from it. I have to assume they are not.

    They are trying to shear the sheep.

  • fuck the knife that resets the world what kind of ball bearing technology do all these lost civiliations have in tomb raider

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  • I have to assume that they also have automated grease pumps.

  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • And you are stubbornly saying that for some reason philosophy only starts when modernity begins. You are literally placing your trust in liberal self-selected interpretations of Vol. 2 (or hell, other Marxist interpretations, including my own, of Vol. 2) rather than reading it yourself and forming your own opinion to compare to these modern authors. You want to be a giant but all of these giants before you did every bit of reading, writing and research they could get their grubby little mitts on. That is imo, what creates a giant.

    I 100% recommend that you read Adam Smith and Ricardo as well, so you can even argue with Marx on his interpretation of it. Hell, I 100% recommend that you read Hegel, Schopenhauer, Kant, Hume, Plato, Aristotle, Xenophon, etc. We live in an age with access to archives of knowledge Marx would have literally killed for. Excersize it.

    Marx was pretty clear. It was socialism OR barbarism. If the system is rational, it will proceed towards communism and the freedom and betterment of mankind, if the system remains mired in irrationality, it will inevitably collapse under the weight of it's own contradictions and revert back towards the feudal economy, or some other formation that values protection of accumulated wealth over the common interests of those that create it. He was also clear that without active and organized party and labor movement with the means to defend itself and the revolution, the system will never naturally bring itself towards rationality. You clearly get this if you are arguing that Marx didn't have teleology.

    Men make history, but they do not make it under circumstances of their own choosing. And he was correct. If anything it was Lenin who really fucked up his analysis, thinking that if Russia fell then there would be nothing stopping Germany and the entirety of industrial Europe from becoming communist. Without a communist revolution occuring in the most industrialized nation in the world after WWII, the capitalists were able to essentially dictate the course of modern history, and we now live in an incredible state of being where two countries at war with each other can still be their greatest energy partner and provider for most of it. A fully irrational system for the betterment of humanity. And it may take another couple 100 years, but eventually, the oil will run dry, the mines will be empty, and for what? So that .001% of humanity never has to work another day in their life? To go forth and strip the light from the stars for the sake of number go up?

    I'm not saying he had everything figured out, but I am saying that the principles of capital reproduction that are laid out in Capital Vol. 2 are the foundations for a real understanding of modern political-economy and you are insisting that you don't have to read it because you are just so good at this analysis, but others should. It's maddeningly absurd logic.

    Argueably Vol. 2 is even more important than Vol. 1 because it is where he gets into the most important parts, how capital is formed, accumulates and is in-of-itself vested with power in a way that never actually existed prior to modernity (which, argueably it did, just not in the kind of concentrations that divorced it from the polity as an independent entity. Even Crassus was still a creature of Rome. But one could also argue that Marx is pretty clear about a development period being about the overall tendency in the period, not if something was 100% one thing or the other, but I digress).

    Look, you can do whatever you want, read whatever you want, tell people to read whatever you want. It's not your job to live up to my standards. You can respond however you wish, but know that I am considering this conversation finished for my own sake.

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  • Please tell me you are trolling.

    Lenin constantly references Marx and Engles throughout his works, with most of his critiques of his opponents stemming directly from what he believed to be misinterpretations (revisions) of Marxist thought. Lenin was always, always, sure to tie his particular analysis of the material conditions within Russia back to Marx's original observations, littering his works with direct quotations from Marx that would refute his opponents. He literally wrote one of the most comprehensive known biographies of Marx.

    You don't understand the metaphor. You can be giant while standing on the shoulders of giants. If there was ever a giant that stood on the shoulders of a giant, it was Lenin. If you want to be Lenin, then you have to read Marx.

  • How many more "socialists" do you guys need to elect before it stops being a struggle session every damned time

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  • As has been mentioned previously, when there is nowhere for the energy to go, it goes to things like this.

  • How many more "socialists" do you guys need to elect before it stops being a struggle session every damned time

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  • We'll see if he will be a good mayor. However, given what I have seen from him so far, and my experiences in the past, he will cave under even moderate pressure if it means that he can achieve a higher office or get into a lucrative speaking circuit gig. If they stone-wall him completely, even for his personal career, we may actually see some real attempts at completing his campaign promises, if only to attempt some form of self-preservation.

    If he actually flips the script and uses his real-politik to accomplish his campaign promises, I will change my tune accordingly and happily admit I was wrong. But for now, it looks at though he has done his best to hack away at his roots so he can float along with the current, with nothing to show for it.

  • I've been seeing this from the right a lot lately. Did a big right-wing media figure make this argument or something?

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  • This idea of the 'oppression Olympics' has been an off-again, on-again thing in rw circles for awhile now. They love to paint their opponents, who are mostly asking for the same rights enjoyed by others, as these huge unreasonable villains that think of themselves as misunderstood, but are really just evil.

    This, of course, is mostly just projection on their part.

  • How many more "socialists" do you guys need to elect before it stops being a struggle session every damned time

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  • Idk, how many 'socialists' immediately use their new-found position to undermine the international position of the organization that raises them up? The reason third world communist elected people are pretty non-controversial is because they don't tend to do that.

  • Can someone give me good news about social issues?

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  • I am generally secure in the knowledge that any success they do have will inevitably lead to them eating themselves. These people are wholy selfish and self-centered, and do not have an actual understanding of the system that they run.

    If they keep pushing on the gas like this, they will continue to cut out larger and larger sections of the populace, which democratic liberalism uses to shore up the empire. If you stop shoring it up, eventually the tide will wear down the barriers and take back the beach. I am personally more worried about the Democrats coming back in and figuring out a way to square this circle.

    Like, even young military people make fun of Trump constantly. These people are not actually united for a cause because there is no cause to believe in anymore. They can't convince anyone that America is a greater good, and the idea that we are a lesser evil is becoming more laughable by the day.

    Everyone is in their own little media corner these days, but because of that, there very little societal cohesion, which will make it incredibly difficult for the U.S. to actually muster itself in either a defensive or offensive posture. They will blow shit up and kill a lot of people, but we are a significantly less cohesive society than we were in the 90's.

  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • Lol. Look, none of what you just said made any sense to me, but enjoy your night.

    I will say one thing, correct, Marx didn't have Marx when writing Capital. However, that doesn't mean we have to reinvent the wheel. Stand on the shoulders of giants.

  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • I think it is hypocritical to tell someone to read something you haven't read yourself imo, but this conversation has started circling and I'm not a strict Maoist so you do you I guess.

  • What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness?

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  • I am arguing that you need to finish reading Capital lol and not just vibe it out, because the principles that exist within it are still incredibly relevant to the modern economic formation. That's it.

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  • There are plenty of factory jobs in the U.S.

    They suck, are mostly second and third shift, and do not pay very well, but they do exist. I know because I have worked them most of my life. Labouring towards anything productive is not possible under capitalism, as you will always be laboring to buy porky another yacht.

    The Society of Spectacle goes into the modern formulation of Marx's principles of alienation, and what those dissolving ties look like, as we literally dissolve our ties with reality itself in order to propagate capitalist accumulation.

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  • Lol He literally does describe the corrupting nature though! In the work that you said you read!

    "All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind." - The Communist Manifesto

    I don't disregard modern authors, but they are often just describing aspects of what Marx was able to coalese into a fairly comprehensive whole. I have read all of them as well. I don't reject their conclusions, but if you think that the 'average worker' has zero tangible labor output, you are being very myopically first world to the international economic system.

    Please don't throw around words like 'dogmatic' if you haven't actually read all of the supposed 'dogma'.

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  • How would you know this if you don't read theory?

    He very clearly laid the groundwork for all of this in Capital. We are the primary traded commodities now, our very time and attention is the last remaining commodity and frontier to extract potential profit from. Marx 'simply didn't predict how society would turn out' because Marx didn't make predictions or prognostications like that.

    Anytime someone is like 'we need to move past Marx' I know it is because they haven't actually read Marx. It's like people saying we need to move past Newton because Einstein's theory of relativity exists.

    All of the dynamics that Marx describes are still present because he was describing our modern system in it's infancy, and as much as everyone wants to claim that we are now in a post-modern state, that is simply false, we are in ultra-modernity, where everything has been commodified.