• zd9@lemmy.world
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        Permanent distraction from the fact that Trump trafficked and raped dozens of young girls with Jeffrey Epstein. That’s the entire goal.

        Israel forced Trump into this war because they have that proof of him raping children hanging over his head. Israel is just your standard genocidal imperialistic religious fanatical fascist regime that views any Muslims as “animals” or “subhumans” (their own words).

        • The goal of the war? Establishing Greater Israel. Netanyahu is really keen on the neighbor’s land. Trump is just there as the muscle, barely know what’s going on and just acts tough to protect his reputation with his flunkies.

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          If that were the case, they wouldn’t have killed the Ayatollah, the one man preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon with his religious Fatwa against nuclear weapons.

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              No.

              Iran is a civilization with political factions and a robust political system.

              The faction that thought nukes would be stabilizing for the region (and time is showing that they were correct) wanted to be able to have nukes very quickly should the Ayatollah change his mind.

              Your understanding of Iran is basically just spoon fed propaganda with no critical thought. Go comment on things you actually know anything about.

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                The Iranian government basically murdered or tortured into submission any other political factions. The only ‘factions’ you see are subsets of the shia extremist faction. Sure, nukes would ‘stabilize’ their rule but its funnysad that you would try to present that as something preferable for those oppressed by it

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            Yeah but that was a brown person’s deal and we can’t have that.

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            Maybe the reason he canceled that deal was so that he had an excuse to manufacture pretense later.

            I don’t think he has that much foresight, but maybe the people pulling his strings do…

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              Ya because that’s how deals work… The fact that one took years and thousands of experts from all over the world to broker is testimony to how dumb this notion that Iran doesn’t have the right get something back in negotiations is laughable. Also inserting that they don’t have the right to self determination via self defense is also insulting to everyone involved.

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                It’s insulting not to want a bunch of murdering religious nutjobs to have nukes?

                Maybe they should free their people before I’ll entertain the thought that they have ‘the right’ to such horrible weapons

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                  Are you taking about Israel?

                  Because the Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes, which is the sole reason it didn’t have one.

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                  Also wanted to add the Obama deal prevented them from getting nukes. You know how I know that? I read the fucking reports from the international inspectors. Iran passed every search and were complying with the deal. Trump threw it out and started bombing again. Not Iran. Where are you getting your news?! Seriously. You are either willfully ignorant or a troll.

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                  So, who should have nukes? Just America and their allies? Every country has seen that as soon as they lose nuclear capability they crumble from imperialism, so why would they give up their weapons?

                  Ideally Iran or NK or Russia (or America) wouldn’t have nuclear weapons, but that’s not reality.

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                  We’re the religious nut jobs dude. (and Isreal) Free their people? Who has more imprisoned citizens? Iran or America? Do you have any idea how Iran’s nut jobs can to power? We are making the same fucking mistakes we did 100 years ago. Also, only one nation has used nukes in violence. Acting as if we have the moral high ground here is alarming.

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          Trump has single-handedly encouraged them to develop this program by destroying the Iran nuclear deal in his first term.

          This is ALL his fucking fault.

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              What? The Obama deal ensured they could enrich past nuclear power plant levels which is about 85% bellow bomb making. And getting to 95% or greater enrichment is extremely difficult.

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                Yeah, they showed you how difficult it really is back in '24

                You’re betting the farm on it they won’t ever be able to technically do what a bunch of pioneers did 80 years ago?

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                  Lol back in '24 you mean when Trump canceled the deal? I don’t think that’s the argument you think it is. And once again. All our actions have proven is they need a nuke for self determination.

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          I’m more concerned about the USA’s nuclear weapons at this point. Why can they have them, but Iran can’t?