• Cataphract@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    I hope that anyone taking meaning or valuation from this data seriously looks into the methods and how fucked this whole survey process is (as you should with any data you’re forming an opinion from). I’m kinda just sick and tired of crap like this being taken seriously as a true projection of a populace. I get that surveys are rough science, but the way it’s disseminated through articles or comments is that it’s gospel truth (pun intended).

    What is the American Trends Panel (ATP)? (thank you @TragicNotCute@lemmy.world

    Oversampling is used to study small groups, not bias poll results

    Hilarious ass video showing their “science” - Methods 101: Random Sampling

    When surveying small populations, some approaches are more inclusive than others

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      The article does a nice job of breaking out who votes how and kind of helps you say “I see” as to why the results are skewed the way they are. We all know why: religion, with a sprinkling of old. So I don’t necessarily doubt these results. America is the land of religion, and not just white evangelicals. Black religious folks absolutely don’t like homosexuality. Muslims don’t. Hispanic Catholics are very puritan. Jews are generally okay about this stuff.

      But the common thread tends to be religion, and we have a lot of places of worship here. When you think about wealthy first world countries, America sits up high when it comes to religion, and how many people are religious. And while we’ve seen a decline, it’s still a big population.

      EDIT: I would also be curious to see who said porn is morally wrong, and still viewed it anyway. I think religion comes with this crazy amount of hipocracy, and not just hipocracy but this sort of uncertainty, and it’s that whole fear of God thing.

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      3 days ago

      Interesting getting some downvotes with no comment pushbacks on the validity of their scientific process even with posting their methods. Is this just people upset that someone is challenging their beliefs that are being reinforced with the graphic but can’t dispute any positives in their data collection process?

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        Because there’s literally no argument here except a YouTube video. Wow, how credible.

        Tell me, what I should dispute about a comment whose only argument is “pew is bad”?

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        What is the problem with their methods? You can’t just link to their methodology and be like, “See? They’re full of shit!” I skimmed and nothing jumped out at me, so how would I go about evaluating or refuting such vague claims?