“Trump and Putin are gay lovers also Trump is a bad guy because he’s got psychological issues!”

Gee I wonder why the left is abandoning the ‘lesser of two evils’ parties when libs make it clear that they equate vulnerable people with vile ghouls like Musk or Trump

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    There’s also that whole “micropenis means they evil and insecure” shit they sling. Oh you don’t like us mentioning that lol your projecting.

    Liberals will blame everything but the systems of power that got us here. Dark Money is a pretty good book on how the right of America built their base of power but I’ve only heard liberals talk about the psychosexual politics of the Koch brothers

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        I’m in no way excusing anyone for using penis size as a valid avenue of attack, but I thought Musk was being made fun of for being fuck-you rich, trying to get penis enlargement surgery, and still having it get botched. It seemed like it was more along the lines of “You tried to fix something that wasn’t broken and fucked it up so much that it became worse in your mind than when you started”, which speaks more to his own toxic masculinity biting him in the…whatever.

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        Agreed and that’s what I meant about them saying you’re projecting for calling them out on their bullshit. Weaponizing transphobia/racism/sexism/ableism/bigotry is still using it and only harms people instead of institutions

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        I’ve never seen this connection. It always seemed clearly a manifestation of the horrible version masculinity which dominates, and I can see very easily how that version of masculinity is related to transphobia of course, but I’ve never heard that these are directly related. Can you explain more? Is it like some shit about “you only don’t want to be a man because your penis is small?” Or something like that? Or is it about estrogen somehow that these are related?

        How old are penis size jokes anyways?

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          For one jokes that hinge on “being manly (having a big dick) is good and being unmanly (having a small dick) is shameful and bad” are inherently transphobic/transmisogynistic cuz of the implication that being camab and “unmanly” is shameful and worthy of ridicule, and for two estrogen (usually) shrinks ur penis, and penises trans men get from phalloplasty are afaik usually smaller than an average one, so trans ppl in both directions are more likely to have a small penis

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            to add on to this, trans mascs often (anecdotal but i do at least) refer to bottom growth on testosterone as their penis which of course tend be smaller than cis counterparts so like, small dick jokes really suck in that respect too

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            Thanks for the explanation! It seems like there’s a lot of negative impacts on everyone from the misfounded masculinity of our patriarchal society. That trans people get hurt by the penis size shit should’ve been more obvious to me, I think. Sorry for whatever pain you trans comrades have experienced from it

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      Dark Money by Jane Mayer, Listen, Liberal by Thomas Frank, and Democracy in Chains by Nancy Maclean are 3 of my favorite books to recommend together to really sum up how fucked the two political parties are and how we got here. stalin-approval

      Dark Money kinda gives the dem party a pass and frames them as victims, but Thomas Frank goes into how the Koch Brothers were on the board of the Democratic Leadership Council that helped elect Bill Clinton and really ties it all together.

      Also, the Koch’s were giving a bunch of money to Democrats for a while.

      https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/koch-brothers-democrats-104787