in which PugJesus makes a post about ‘solidarity’ and immediately bans any anarchist he disagrees with.
I get that tankiejerk is a circlejerk comm, but the hypocracy in this post was so rank I couldn’t resist commenting. Obviously I was perm banned within minutes
PJ says:
but when someone says to you “I’m an anarchist, I organize to alleviate suffering at the grassroots level”, the correct response is “Right on, comrade”, even if you think state institutions are the optimal solution.
Me:
I’m an anarchist, I organize locally. It’s a big part of my daily life. based on my experiences I have found way more common cause with so-called ‘tankies’ than liberals when it comes to actually working to oppose the shit that’s crushing us.
[banned]
it turns out that he doesn’t practice what he preaches at all. Obligatory:
I see PJ is still pretending to be “vaguely” leftist by banning every marxist and anarchist he can find that hasn’t blocked him yet.
And banning someone for agreeing with your position is about as PTB as it’s possible to get. What’s he going to do next, call for trans unity and then ban anyone who’s not part of his approved genders list?
Every marxist and anarchist MUST support neoliberal capitalists who don’t do anything better for the general welfare of the people, and if they don’t, they MUST be purged!
And banning someone for agreeing with your position is about as PTB as it’s possible to get.
Reminds me of how PugJesus (“reportedly”) has been caught by several people arguing between two different people with opposite points, contradicting himself.
He’s complained about neopronouns in the past so I don’t think that would be beneath him. I actually checked his profile and he has an old community called FediverseSlander where he complains that people called him out for his transphobia.
“I’m such an ally! I just will loudly protest that I am not transphobic, by documenting the people calling me out!”
I even have 2 dedicated posts about me, and all I did was report him for stalking my account, when he admitted it. Rent free. Meanwhile since he’s been banned here, I don’t think of him until he does yet another power trip and enjoy laughing at him.
Lol at the “solidarity” post in a comm created because PJ couldn’t even find solidarity with the other anti-tankie comm.
Honestly, anyone voluntarily hanging out at comms PJ (or JordanLund, same thing basically ) moderates, deserves the drama
PTB, as always with PugJesus. Did you know he banned @db0 because db0 tried to explain facts about how communties are moderated on lemmy?
Hi pug, we know you’re in the db0 matrix servers with an alt. You aren’t suble. You say I’m obsessed with you while you make alts in chats to eavesdrop on them talking about you, then taddle on people in your safe spaces where you can moderate with an iron fist.
Can’t wait for all the screenshots about how you’re the victim when you’re the only reason why people don’t like you. It’s not a grand conspiracy, you’re just an asshole.
PJ is trying to bait principled leftists again using a meme about left unity.
Left unity against the distorters of socialism.
Quoting Lenin, but we can replace ‘Marxism’ with ‘socialism’ in this case.
Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie. All the social-chauvinists are now “Marxists” (don’t laugh!).
PugJesus being an asshat? Must be a day ending in y.
They’ve spilled to tumblr more than once calling lemmy mean and abelist for bullying an autistic trans person for not getting their schtick
And yet they keep going back to lemmy…
Oh my God I bet his Tumblr is just filled with a bunch of wild takes.
PugJesus is a known shitlib and troll who has been banned from many communities and rightfully so. Would definitely encourage people to avoid his spaces like the plague.
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PTB reminder that Pugjesus called readsettlers.org a melodramatic screed[1] and thinks its “racially prejudiced”[2] against white people
Shout out to JonsJava who also agrees but doesn’t dare mention the “anti-white racism” aloud[3]
yea as soon as you’re on his ‘tankie radar’ he immediately swings the banhammer no matter what you say.
it’s funny though. embrace it and hope next time he also features you on meanwhileongrad :D
Did you know that according to PugJesus, anyone who doesn’t support genocide and wants the democrats to run on popular polices to win is a tankie? @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world is on PugJesus’ shitlist for that.
lol! it’s their fault for committing wrongthink and being a tankie!
It feels like he just throws that term around when he encounters something he dislikes. it’s like ‘woke’ but for radlibs.
while we’re at it, and i probably won’t get the chance to mention it again: i love how PJ acts stupid. then people talk about it and he boasts about how the ‘tankies are obsessed’ with him in certain comms.
It feels like he just throws that term around when he encounters something he dislikes. it’s like ‘woke’ but for radlibs.
According to him, db0 is either fully fascist or fully Tankie. Completely contradictory accusations.
It’s a rite of passage for any leftist.
Mwog continues to be a great litmus test.
If someone interacts with it or post there positively or listens to the people there, cough piefed creator, 9/10 terrible person.
average call for leftist unity be like
PugJesus, the well known fascist?
PugJesus, the person who will be screenshotting this thread and pretending to not be angry about people calling him out?
I’m not angry, you’re angry! 😭
“Noted tankie bootlicker” read as: “I already made up my mind about this person”
Your objection wasn’t even defending tankies, just people who have been called tankies, which includes everything from “mildly anticapitalist” to “doesn’t support the police” (yes that is a real, recent example). Of course he doesn’t care about solidarity or tolerance, he’s a classic PTB that would rather ban people for suspected wrongthink. Or, as he’d say, a “noted histrionic powermod.”
One of the first people I ever blocked and someone I’ve been side-eyeing ever since he switched from lemmy to piefed. He’s generally been doing a better job, but this is definitely inline with original recipe PJ.
yooooo same, him and UniversalMonk were my first two “nope, every account you’ve ever made and every community they moderate need to be out of my sight forever” blocks. Fortunately he doesn’t seem to spread as virulently as Monk does.
UM, PJ, JL. First three users I noticed making me have a negative experience on the threadiverse. Pretty much in that order.Which I’m realizing now in my head I imagine them as the
threestraight white dudes of this experienceEDIT: I’ve apparently never interacted with the real UM, just a troll account
I imagine them as the three straight white dudes of this experience
OP’s post had nothing to do with me or any of my communities. I’m not straight, but nice try and bringing my sexuality into this. Why are you trying to bring my sexuality into this?
Care to explain yourself?EDIT: All good now. Looks like we have never actually interacted and it was mistaken identity.Hey, sorry about that. The account I’d interacted with was the exact same set of interactions I’ve come to expect from “well meaning” straight white men who as soon as you say they’re perpetuating something harmful go full obliteration mode because they expect you to exist in service of their own perfect self-actualization path instead of as human beings with thoughts and feelings. I’m sorry I promoted falsehoods about you thinking it was the real you. I assumed I knew what you were like based on a simulacrum intentionally created to distort my and others’ perceptions of you. I will open my eyes to you and see you with my observing eye and my assessing eye, and determine who I think you are afresh from here.
I replied to another comment as well under my main account of @UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com, but I wanted to follow up to this reply as well you are so generous and well-spoken.
Plus, I’ve added a new word to my vocabulary: simulacrum
So thank you for that!
My full post history is here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
So you can judge for yourself. You may still block me, and I’m ok with that, because at least you’ll be choosing to do it based on facts and not what other people say about me or how they try to troll people.
You’re good in my book, friend!
What did Monk do? He’s pretty chill.
hean account was posting everywhere saying i was a nazi telling me to kill myself. i went and blocked all his accounts because i don’t need that in my lifeEDIT: Apparently I was getting mass stalked by a bot meant to give a negative impression of UM and we’ve never actually interacted
EDIT: User updated to mention that he didn’t interact with me. I think I was a bit too harsh in saying he was lying, when it looks like he was just mistaken. So now all good.
Never once have I ever told anyone to kill themselves. Not on Lemmy. Not on Reddit. Not in real life. Ever. In college I worked suicide hotline for 2 hours every single night for minimum wage, after my regular job, and I am still shook by some of my work there.
So what you are saying is so far outside my personality set, that I can only think you must have some ulterior motive by saying this.
You are straight outright lying. Please provide proof. Many hate for the shit that I actually do and say, so there’s no reason to lie about what I do. You are straight up lying right now. I’ve never even implied anyone to kill themselves.
Also, please provide proof that I was posting “everywhere” that you were a nazi. I don’t even recall ever seeing your name before this comment.
Hmm, how sure are you that it was UM, and not one of the (many) troll impersonation accounts over the past few years? He responded to your comment but since you have him blocked I’ll repost it below, since I think you would want to see it:
Never once have I ever told anyone to kill themselves. Not on Lemmy. Not on Reddit. Not in real life. Ever. In college I worked suicide hotline for 2 hours every single night for minimum wage, after my regular job. So what you are saying is so far outside my personality set, that I can only think you must have some ulterior motive by saying this.
You are straight outright lying. Please provide proof. Many hate for for shit that I actually do, there is no reason to lie about what I do. You are straight up lying right now. I’ve never even implied anyone to kill themselves.
I’m not suggesting UM is some sort of angel, but a lot of impersonation accounts were spun up to get him banned from LW since he was advocating for third party in the last US election. The libs were losing their mind over it at the time. I’d be quite surprised if it was from one of his real accounts.
Thank you for following up. I’m pretty easy-going about most of the false things said about me, and can laugh them off. But suicide is something I have very personal experience with in my family, so that comment got me more irked than usual.
As infamous as my name is, even most of the imposters are banned by now (I think). So I find it very hard to believe that even someone faking my username would have been able to follow the poster around and say that stuff for long. Until I see a screenshot, I’m calling BS on the entire story.
From what I know of him, Quill is being sincere, and I do believe that it happened. But as I said my money is on it being a troll account.
Yeah, I agree w you now. And the guy seems sincere to me too, so all good now. Thank you for your help in this!
All the posts are gone now. This was about 9 months ago so I haven’t kept any records. I don’t know how that fits into any timelines. Again, I’m sorry about this genuine misunderstanding
Hey brother, no worries, no harm. Thanks for being open enough to look into it and update things. I made plenty of enemies on Lemmy because I advocate for free speech, third-party voting, socialism, and diversity of opinions. And they got even more angry when they found out they couldn’t bully me off of Lemmy. So they started troll accounts, misrepresent what I say and stand for, etc.
I’m glad you’re not one of those enemies. I got no beef with you and thank you for the updates.
probably was a spin up troll account then. it’s also something i take very seriously since i come from a similar training and background. i just assumed it was the genuine article since it was the first interaction i had. if you can tell me which UMs are the real ones i’ll unblock
His main account is now @UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus and he also uses @UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com afaik.
Thanks! Just unblocked
Fortunately he doesn’t seem to spread as virulently as Monk does.
OP’s post had nothing to do with me or any of my communities. And exactly how do I spread “virulently”?
I mostly post in my own socialist communities. If you don’t like socialism, cool. Glad you have blocked my communities, but it’s silly to say I spread “virulently.”
Unless of course you mean people like you who keep randomly mentioning my name all the time and keeping me feeling famous. Which is awesome. So yes, keep doing that. I like the attention that you all give me. :)
I have him blocked, every community he moderates blocked and every community he participates in blocked. They stain my experience so I self moderate them out of my view.
