As a father I’m seeing all these other fathers and just think damn glad i’m not their wife.

read some of the shit you got linked. At this point your ignorance is voluntary. You don’t actually have a point otherwise you would be arguing it

Here is a palestinian secular left wing movements opinion on hamas

is it really that implausible that people don’t get all that from some smug “huh and hows that going??” when we’re talking about people getting genocided? Nah we’re all alts hating on you because you’re that important…

you’re a zionist. opposing the genocide is meanigless if you also oppose the only armed resistance to it. You’re not even presenting any arguments for it other than “islam bad”. Make a proper sourced argument and don’t just declare something to be true and anyone who sees it differently “a fool”.

nah this is how I understand your responses too. Make your point or leave it be.

It comes full circle https://lemmy.ml/post/46039951/25207095

If they are forking it because of developers being Russian, is that not likely discriminatory?

absolutely but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here? or I don’t see a reason think that, they claim that onlyoffice is infringing on the original agpl license and that’s why they’re forking and from my uninformed perspective it looks valid.

It’s technically xenophobia, russophobia if it’s targeted at russians, but honestly racism is a good enough descriptor for anyone to understand what you’re talking about. The name “euro-office” comes from the companies targeting this product for the european public sector who has finally (much too late imo) started to attempt to liberate itself from the yankee software giants grip. You can see at the bottom of the readme

Is Euro-Office just for Europeans? Isn’t open source without borders?

Open Source is an international movement, and we are definitely open to contributions by anyone, anywhere! All code will be judged on its merits, not on its origin, and receive equal review. And, of course, anyone is welcome to use Euro-Office in line with the provisions in the AGPLv3 license!

https://github.com/Euro-Office

Any particular reason or are we free-vibing here?

nah suspend all flight, no one flies until the train tracks are built and optimized.

ah fuck how will we melt our steel beams??

You might ask yourself why, well here is the reason

Ok honestly I don’t give a shit how you try to justify your murderspree to yourself. How you’re trying to make it seem that you’re a good person despite all the murder. I don’t know why you felt the need to explain yourself to me. Have you seen a litter of kittens? Or puppies? How would you react if someone took all the babies away from their momma, caged her and milked her dry, only to forcibly impregnate her again the next year and repeat for the sole reason to keep the milk coming? What would your reaction be to someone killing the mewling kittens and frying them up and eating them, and when you express your horror tells you that they will repeat it again just because you dared point out their sadism? This is what a cow goes through year after year. “Oh but my omelas kids get to see the sky sometimes” wowee…

https://web.archive.org/web/20250403130922/https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/403444/dairy-industry-cow-life-milk-america

and I don’t know why I even try with you people anymore

I do think that you coming into this comics comment section was legitimately looking to get upset and you’re kinda ignoring the point of the comic but alas.

like why do I explain my emotions in detail which included a glimpse into my private life to you who has been nothing but callously rude, only for you to completely ignore it and replace it with a more convenient explanation. And the explanation doesn’t even make sense, why would I come to the comment section to view the offensive post?? I saw it browsing the frontpage, got horrified and commented, the end.

Also how is the point different from

yankee is upset at danish guy callously murdering two animals, oh if only he knew that in the faroe islands they murder sheep in front of a class of children so violently that the kids are covered in blood splatter and give away literal bags of blood as cutesy souvenirs and the children are already so desensitized they cheer for this? Could you imagine his reaction teehee 🤭

So I present my reaction, because I think the fictional yanks reaction would be completely justified. Because I empathize with the person ridiculed and see myself in them. Because, jesus christ, I keep forgetting how demonically desensitized the average person is to the violence and death from which their treats come.

And I can already imagine the treatlerite in you ready with another excuse, another deflection, oh you can ignore the vegan he is just stupid/trolling he doesn’t actually mean that, he is just looking for a reaction/he is making a ridiculous assumption that obviously is false, no need to think about it further.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his treats depend on his not understanding it.” Paraphrasing upton sinclair.

Honestly ask yourself if you really aren’t working your logic backwards from “i want to keep my lifestyle as it is”

Do you understand how the image you posted is an inaccurate, misleading depiction of reality that does nothing to prove your point, rather undermines it, yes or no? Why are you relying on misleading propaganda to attack this “genocidal dictatorship”? Surely there must be better material how horrible life was in the USSR than this shit right?

Huh? How does countering anticommunist propaganda online prevent me from doing good offline? Two things can be true at once. (unironic)

Also do you understand how that image is misleading? That it is made in a way to distort reality by depicting it in a certain light? That this is constantly ongoing?

Two more examples

• https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1055989
• https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11068215

Edit: also I know yanks are fucking bewildered at public parts with fruit trees, like you can just go in and pluck the fruit and eat it, so it’s fun to point out that that’s a thing that existed in this supposed “hellhole that was cheapening out at every turn”

I don’t live in the USA, I live in west germany that had to compete with the living standards in east germany and so when rebuilding had to make sure our residential areas are similarly constructed with care for how the laborers living there would feel about them. That’s how I know what that place you posted looks like with normal saturation and in summer.

Also my point wasn’t just about the trees, but the clear planning that went into that whole area. You can’t do “just plant trees bro” in US cities because it’s just concrete and asphalt everywhere.

Maybe this cartoon will help, just replace “racist” with “carnist” Here did it for you, might be good agitprop for the next “I will eat twice as much meat now”

Ok and here is my POV:

I came into a comment section about a comic depicting the normalization of animal slavery and murder in front of children, with literal blood presented as a cutesy souvenir, for comedic shock effect and expressed my shock at this wanton display of cruelty by calling the people that participate in this knowingly as lacking “humanity” (which is a speciesist way of talking about compassion and empathy) and then refuse to back down from this position. Because, obviously, you need to lack compassion and kindness with the creatures you’re intending to butcher. That’s just objectively what’s happening.

As for your second point, I don’t care about the “vegan reputation”. People make fun of us no matter how polite and considerate to the babykillers we are. We are simultaneously the soyboy wimps who are too squeamish for the manly murder of baby sheep and the loudmouthed, foul, combative punks who keep disturbing everyone no matter how much you berate them and tell them to shut up. There is no winning so I refuse to play.

Besides, not everything is about outreach and sometimes I just want to comment how I feel without running it through the “oh how will the carnists react to this” filter (ironic then that this got me banned from my instance for trolling lol).

My reaction comes from me being a parent who already has to be very mindful of the carnist propaganda normalizing farm cruelty to babies and kindergardeners with overly cutesy depictions of the non-humans concentration camps. So this comic hit pretty hard, reminding me how this is dialed up to 11 when they will go to school. Outings to zoos and farms for the kulak and animal ag propaganda will be harder to avoid and they might even have to dissect creatures that have been killed just for this purpose? My eldest is already fairly sensitive and I want him to keep empathizing with non-humans, so it seems like the options are I fail and he sees non-humans as not deserving of compassion and kindness or he gets minitraumas constantly in the places he’s supposed to feel safe at.

Lets also not pretend this exchange is one sided. When I explained my POV in clear terms (and I guess I could’ve sugarcoated it somewhat I know how fragile carnists ego are but honestly this is often too tiring) your immediate reaction was “i’m gonna troll this guy by telling him just how much I love killing and make him feel bad by shifting the blame for this act on his rudeness”. Why is it that we are constantly expected to react politely to people being offensive to us and never the other way around? Maybe if you had been more polite I’d be more receptive to deescalation? Why are we the ones that are expected to deescalate, when in fact we are calling out injustice that is so normalized it doesn’t even register to most? Do you not see the contradiction here?

This answer is already fairly long and I guess serves as the proof that yeah I would’ve been calmer if you had been so I’m gonna leave it at that.

Not sure where you’re going with this but no

😦

I even hesitated if “demonic” was a good word to replace my original statement with, but your first reaction to getting called out in your role in the genocide of the non-humans was “i’m gonna do it even harder” and if that’s not the exact reaction a demon would have then I don’t know what the concept is even good for