• Oskolki [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            There’s people like Zizek who think that it’s good the Conservative (like trump) wins, because it shows how evil they are. I think that’s wrong. The Correct approach is electing a lib and forcing them into a checkmate where they either act or self-sabotage. Of course the obvious problem with my proposition is that the moment the Lib is elected they’d be smart enough to give people treats and they’d stop pushing them, so it’d preserve the statue quo.

            Honestly I’m not smart enough to figure out what to do here. I really hope someone out there is. It’s easy to say “Just make your own party” but then why am I not doing it?

            • Sneakytrickyyy [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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              Push them into acting!? What? How is that possible? I don’t think it’s realistic.

              These people know neither shame, nor embarrassment, nor obligation to grow a spine and stand up for anything.

              Why? They get paid either way, win or lose it doesn’t matter, the American people are suckers who fall for the same trick again and again, like a broken record, like a bad joke that’s ran its course, and it’s not funny, it’s fucking appalling, it’s sad.

              Even if the democrats shit the bed, like they have, many times in fact, people will still fall for the same tricks.

              stress

              • Oskolki [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                I think people think I’m saying: “If you Vote in the Good cop then things will get better, than the Bad cop.”

                Here’s what I’m saying:

                “If you can’t vote out the cop, then make the good cop have to start beating people.”

                Why are you allowing them to lose and let their attack dog loose? Can’t you see through it? Do you think they’re so ignorant they don’t know how to throw up a popular campaign? Those people are literally friends with each other like jfc

                • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  They can self-sabotage enough to deliberately lose, there is nothing the left can do to avoid that. There is no beating the turnismo by its rules, only by throwing the system out.

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.netM
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      All these people suck obvs but what anyone still sees in the charisma black hole that is pete is beyond me. I had lib friends in 2020 who were like “yeah I like Buttigieg he has good things to say!” and I couldn’t roll my eyes hard enough