How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/
I’ve never seen a good faith argument against veganism in my life. It’s all trolling and tired “jokes.”
I don’t believe there are any good arguments against veganism, but there are plenty of bad arguments for it.
The only good argument I know against veganism/vegetarianism these days is that meat tastes good. It’s the only thing stopping my ADHD ass from taking the time to change my habits.
Plant based food is lowkey adhd friendly, way easier to cook, shorter cook times, less concern about food safety (raw chicken and eggs, fish parasites, etc), fewer smells to contain. Also for some reason I’ve had my tofu go bad even one month afyer expiration date lol
I get the habit thing though. These days I know how to make stuff taste good without animal products but it’s a learning process, no one teaches us this stuff because society is carnist. I found that the framing helps, instead of “i need to change this”/" i need to stop this" it was easier to be excited about new recipes and being as budget friendly as possible.
Exactly! It’s clearly quite straightforward, cheaper, and doesn’t take any more time than eating meat. I’ll be there before long. Just got a lot of crazy life things to deal with at the moment, like a lot of people.
I’m at the stage of buying vegetarian meals when I remember to do so and it doesn’t take any more bother, which is about half the time. Once my life gets a bit more stable, I’ll go vegetarian, then ease on into vegan.
I have a vegan brother who is the best cook I know. He’s why I know how good vegan food is, and how I realised that not eating meat is not gonna mean eating boring stuff. It just takes changing the habits, then you’re set.
Another thing I know from my brother: everyone needs to know about nutritional yeast, whether they are vegetarian or not. Goddamn that stuff is tasty. 😄
that’s cool mate, and yea nooch is king (hence my username 😎 )
If “the sensory experience is good” is enough of a justification on its own, then a whole lot of other things are coming along for the ride.