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why are non-nazis hanging out on the nazi platform?

“no ethical consumption under capitalism,”

As usual: clowns.

The user concluded that “if you care about animals, the position to take is anti-capitalism,” without any explanation as to how the end of capitalism would also bring about the end of animal cruelty. (Capitalist countries don’t have a lock on cruel food systems — in response to the post, Vox contributor Jan Dutkiewicz pointed out how East Germany and other socialist states adopted intensive factory farming in the second half of the 20th century.)

Precisely. If anything, the part of the 1989 revolution, at least in Romania, was because the industrial CAFO system was failing to “produce” enough and the animal products were also being exported. People were super angry that they couldn’t get animal products, while the (partially?) soy-based mock meats were seen as a scam. It’s a big clown show.

Westerners are experiencing more of this situation now with the “grocery price inflation” going on, and instead of saying “capitalism made me do it” like before, they’re going to riot or vote in fascists. The “leftists” too. Bunch of clowns.

Good. People really underestimate how dangerous advertising is and what a low hanging fruit it is.

Let’s just say that it wouldn’t be the first time that populations who are used to eating a lot of animal products suddenly became healthier.

I don’t know who that is.

My statement was in general with these famous non-animal burgers. To see that, you need to see a trend line over changes over time.

Some are holding onto more sodium. That’s on them, but if you think you can do that math on how bad that sodium is vs the rest of the factors, good luck.

Yeah. So much work to turn soybean cream into a solid block, and then people turn that beautiful block into tiny bits.

The plastic is stuff is even weirder when you realize how useful it is – meanwhile most of that oil is turned into fuel to be burned away.

The whole production process from growing plants down to delivering it to the last commercial freezer.

Here’s a podcast introduction to this (several episodes): https://www.tabledebates.org/fueltofork

not my OC, but milking almonds is a vegan tradition.

So… 2 weapons.

After making tofu, something about shredded tofu really saddens me.

Don’t worry, all animal products will be going up in price a lot as a result of the oil and fertilizer crisis going on now. The real question is if the planting plans are getting shifted to food crops or if there will continue to be more feed crops, which will lead to famines in the poorer parts of the world thanks to how the markets work.

Yep. The NOVA clowns can piss off, vegans were talking about whole foods long before they started the moral panic about UPFs.

What am I paying for? Marketing? Corporate profits?

They want to make money by targeting the smaller market of people with more money. It’s marketing strategy, usually tied to “wellness” - which is a super huge market (almost entirely grifters.)

Yeah… on a black market while getting E.coli, Salmonella and tape worms.

Those are older recipes. Always read the ingredients tho.

Try different recipes, you’ll find one.

https://sixhungryfeet.com/16-tofu-recipes-to-convert-a-meat-lover/