• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    If the boomers are gonna go around telling people “you’ll get more conservative as you get older and have money”

    Can we start telling fascists “you’ll get less fascist as you get older and the same horrifying shit you were initially in favor of starts to threaten YOUR safety, in turn”

    Idk, it’s not as catchy but I think it’s still short enough to make an impact

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      Cheney and people like him don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist; they hate him because he’s really bad at it.

      A coup should either be really fast or really subtle, and Trump is neither.

      The same people who stood by then the Supreme Court gave Bush Jr. the win in 2000 are finally getting the idea that SCOTUS needs massive reform.

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        The same people who stood by then the Supreme Court gave Bush Jr. the win in 2000 are finally getting the idea that SCOTUS needs massive reform.

        Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett were all lawyers for GWB in Bush v. Gore.

        It’s literally the same people deciding it now who were arguing for it then.

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        Hm… maybe. I don’t think Cheney wants a fast successful Trump coup, though, because he (unusually among the CNN-addled dreck of consultants whose unrealistic mishmash of own-fart-smelling passes for strategic thinking in Washington) is acquainted enough with realpolitik to know what it actually might mean.

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          Cheney is many things and none of them good except he is smart. He understands systems and knows how to play the politics game while running clandestine operations behind the scenes. Cheney knows what it takes to keep things operational and how to get his way without topping the boat into January 6 levels of outright contempt.

          Trump is very good at one thing: he disrupts established systems. There isn’t a single thing he touches that is the same when he’s done and it operates worse than it started. Every time. It’s kind of hilarious to see how literally everything Trump touches turns to suck.

          Trump is bad for business and Cheney likes business more than people, like how I prefer animals to people. Trump is so bad for long term business that the last time he was in office the only way to prevent an economic free fall on the stock market was to continually lower interest rates but that caused such a low in rates that it allowed home buying. Those home owners are locked into a house with a rate that makes even boomers jealous.

          The economy can’t take another Trump.

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      You’ll get more conservative as you get older (with more money and privilege)

      You’ll get less fascist as you get colder (as the government you put in power let’s civil infrastructure fall apart and/or straight up gun you down)

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        A place to stay Enough to eat
        Somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street
        Where you can speak out loud
        About your doubts and fears
        And what’s more
        No one ever disappears you never hear their standard issue
        Kicking in your door
        You can relax
        On both sides of the tracks
        And maniacs
        Don’t blow holes
        In bandsmen by remote control
        And everyone has recourse to the law
        And no one kills the children anymore
        No one kills the children anymore

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      “you’ll get more conservative as you get older and have money”

      Wrong on both counts. Show me the X who has money not from inheritance or crime.

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        It’s not even true for boomers. I’m (barely) a boomer and I’m much more liberal than when I was young, even though I have more money.

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        I think I understand your argument, but it’s not hard to imagine someone telling a teenager that quote, prior to them getting steady work only a few years later.

        It’s also moldy advice. I recall this one getting tossed around back in the 1980’s, by parents that absolutely went from zero responsibility to paying taxes on salary and a house, just after graduating High school. Things are very different now.