Alt Text: an image of Agent Smith from The Matrix with the following text superimposed, “1999 was described as being the peak of human civilization in ‘The Matrix’ and I laughed because that obviously wouldn’t age well and then the next 25 years happened and I realized that yeah maybe the machines had a point.”

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    2 months ago

    When I heard that line I was like “Yeah, sure. We’ll never have AI in my lifespan” and you know what? I was right.

    What I wasn’t expecting was for a bunch of tech bros to create an advanced chatbot and announce “Behold! We have created AI, let’s have it do all of our thinking for us!” while the chatbot spits out buggy code and suggests mixing glue into your pizza sauce.

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      When I heard that line I was like “Yeah, sure. We’ll never have AI in my lifespan” and you know what? I was right.

      Unless you just died or are about to, you can’t really confidently make that statement.

      There’s no technical reason to think we won’t in the next ~20-50 years. We may not, and there may be a technical reason why we can’t, but the previous big technical hurdles were the amount of compute needed and that computers couldn’t handle fuzzy pattern matching, but modern AI has effectively found a way of solving the pattern matching problem, and current large models like ChatGPT model more “neurons” than are in the human brain, let alone the power that will be available to them in 30 years.

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      I work in the gaming industry and every week I receive emails about how AI is gonna revolutionize my job and get sent to time wasting training about how to use Figma AI or other shit like that because it’s the best thing ever according to HR… and it never is obviously.

      At best, it’s gonna make middle managing jobs easier but for devs like me, as long as the “AI” stays out of our engines and stays into the equivalent of cooperative vision boards, it does nothing for me. Not once have I tried to use it for it to turn actually useful. It’s mediocre at best and I can’t believe there are game devs that actually try to code with it, can’t wait to see these hot garbage products come on the market.

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        Gawd, me too. They’ve started scraping my LinkedIn recommenders to try bait me in.

        For context, I work at a university. The subject was something like “xxxxxx recommends you for a company like us” implying my contact had actually been behind it, but obviously they didn’t.

        Hi saltesc,

        Saw on LinkedIn that xxxxxx highlighted your industry expertise and dedication to client success—sounds like you’re pivotal in driving both xxxxxx and solid outcomes for your clients!

        By the way, any chance you’d be interested in using AI to get total visibility of all your data?

        Our AI data analytics solution specializes in helping companies in the higher education industry do exactly that.

        With Knowi, you can effortlessly get answers to questions like:

        • What is the percentage increase in graduate employment rates from diverse student demographics over the past three years, including international learners?

        • How many new educational offerings have been developed annually at xxxxxx to enhance skills development within the community, including international students?

        It’s like ChatGPT, but for your data!

        Open to learning more?

        All the best, xxxxxx xxxxxx Business Growth

        And obviously it reads like it was written by one of the GPTs.

        Had they seen our profiles, they’d actually know what it is we do and how ridiculous recommending a chat AI is. That’s sooooo beneath our knowledge and expertise. Like a random suggesting Ivermectin to Dr Faucci.

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      You’re confusing AI and AGI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

      AGI is what people mean, when they say “AI doesn’t exist”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence

      While AI is a program that can do a task associated with human intelligence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence

      AI is not supposed to be an artificial human being. AI just does a task that people associated with humans (before they readjusted the definition of intelligence after it being created).

      A bot that plays chess is an AI.

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      2 months ago

      I genuinely do not understand these very obviously biased comments. By the very definition of AI, we have had it for decades, and suddenly people say we don’t have it? I don’t get it. Do you hate LLMs so much you want to change the entire definition for AI (and move it under AGI or something)? This feels unhinged, disconnected from reality, biases so strong it looks like delusions

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        What is delusional is calling a token generator intelligent. These programs don’t know what the input is, nor do they understand what they put out. They “know” that after this sequence of tokens, what a likely successive token is based on previously supplied data.

        They understand nothing. They generate nothing new. They don’t think. They are not intelligent.

        They are very cool, very impressive and quite useful. But intelligent? Pffffffh

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      AI is an umbrella term that covers many things we’ve already had for a long time, including things like machine learning. This is not a new definition of AI, it’s always been this definition.

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        You’re not going to achieve AI on classical computers and is simply rebranded for machine learning like how 5G was advertised to bring futuristic utopia back in 2020 only to have 4K being considered a premium feature behind paid subscriptions from 𝕏 (Twitter) to YouTube.

        Quantum Computers do exist but it’s far from being on the palm of your hand.

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      2 months ago

      The rise of authoritarianism and nationalism is happening in multiple countries like Hungary, Russia, China, and the U.S. Parties like AfD have grown in strength in the last 20 years, thanks in part to the ability of social media companies to prioritize “engagement” to enable them to make more money over societal health.

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            That was just a sensationalized story - they sealed the extra doors on a building but left one open, so they could do controlled screening. I think it was actually just that one building too. They didn’t weld people inside buildings to die 🙄

            As a result they had one of the best COVID responses in the world and saved countless lives.

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          Life is only better in China economically (even this is debatable), but people care about many other aspects of life as well. The limited liberties that the Chinese people had in 1999 are disappearing quickly.

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    American civilization? Yes,definitely. Human civilization? I genuinely don’t think so. I believe in us as a species and think the best is yet to come (after we rid ourselves of bigots and authoritarians).

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      Most of human civilization has been run by kings, emperor’s and dictators. I see the worlds rich population gaining more control than ever while the possibilities for everyone else is less and less. The lower and lower middle class have become too easily influenced by fake news and propaganda. How do we advance when people can be manipulated to go against their own best interests?

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      Interestingly enough though, the directors of the matrix are two trans women

      But while yes, queerphobia was worse in some ways, it was also not as bad in others. For example, trans people didn’t have the massive organized targeted attack back then. In many ways, things have gotten worse in this aspect too

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        Question for the trans folk here: which time period was harder for you? Hostile ignorance or hostile attention?

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          During hostile ignorance:

          • I had to leave the state I grew up in to get into a place I could access medical care, get away from an unaccepting family, and get into a place I wasn’t afraid of being attacked while transitioning (being visibly trans till HRT kicked in).
          • Trans panic was seen as more of a valid defence back then for killing trans people.
          • I think we were seen as more of a curiosity/fetish than people, but that’s debatable since that’s definitely still an issue.
          • People were more afraid of being visibly trans and finding community outside of forums was harder.
          • I was certain I’d lose my job when I inevitably had to come out and had prepared for it by saving up enough to get me through finding another job. I was amazed when that didn’t happen and most of the company accepted me. I still had to deal with harassment that nowadays would probably get those people fired.

          During hostile attention:

          • I had to leave my home due to the state no longer ignoring us and focusing on passing laws to make our lives more difficult.
          • I know a ton of trans people and have a stronger support network. Finding others is easier now.
          • Medical care is easier to get now if you aren’t living in one of the states currently trying to ban HRT.
          • Parents seem a little more accepting but it’s still divisive
          • I’m less afraid of the average person fucking with me in most areas of the US
          • I’m afraid of government attempts to round myself or loved ones up into camps within the next few years.

          Generally, I prefer the visibility and broader social acceptance we have now. More people know about us, so more people hate us but way more people accept us. I see it as how being gay was in the aughts. More people were out and it was less of a big deal even though there was still a lot of hate crimes against gay people. Now it’s way more accepted outside of ultra conservative areas. I’m hoping we are more accepted within a decade instead of being rounded up and killed en masse.