As simple as possible to summarize the best way you can, first, please. Feel free to expand after, or just say whatever you want lol. Honest question.

  • orbitz@lemmy.ca
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    I do not, no proof. If there was a god such as in the Bible why give us reasoning abilities when they give no proof? And if so, then I put forward the idea that if there is such a god, they don’t care if we believe so why bother?. Not to go all gamer but like the Sims, they made us and took out the pool ladder and saw what happened.

    If there is a god that has such powers and cares, well fuck them cause they ain’t helping us it seems. If they are well we’re too far off course for it to matter, this playthrough is spiraling and it doesn’t matter if we believe or not cause we may be circling the drain.

    So seems easier not to believe because if you do it’s more depressing.

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    We seek tangible proofs, of intangible things, in a tangible world, using intangible consciousness, thoughts, mind and reason, called the “Self” or “I Am”, in order to determine if an intangible being could possibly exist. You are your own proof of such things, amongst 8 billion other proofs. We are the intangible being we may or may not believe in. All of us are.

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    4 hours ago

    I feel like religion is so corrupted by governments, cults, and sleazeballs. Not all of them mind you, that it’s just so difficult for a lot of people to put their faith in any religion. That’s why theirs so many atheists.

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    8 hours ago

    I believe in all gods, much in the same way I believe money, justice, and math exist.

    Doesn’t mean I follow any or all of them, yahweh is a dick and so are a few others, but some are chill.

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    10 hours ago

    For me, God is a character stronger than me… Someone whom I call upon in times of despair. That’s it. No deeper meaning than this.

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    10 hours ago

    I used to believe because of how convinced other people were. I thought they had a good reason. Turned out they had not

  • Gods, plural. But believe is a weird word.

    I commune with the ancient gods of my ancestors, whether I believe in them is complicated though. I spent most of my life atheist after the christian church failed to grab me. I learned of my ancestral religion from my great grandmother and my great aunt. Grandma was Catholic on paper but still recognized the old gods. My aunt called herself a druid.

    I choose to commune with the old gods because I have to believe in something. I’ve felt the call of spirit, the gaping void in my heart where spirituality was meant to be, but I do not trust organized religion. I don’t trust the churches. I don’t trust those who would hold power, enforced by faith, over those who do not know better.

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    16 hours ago

    Man - how I hate that on almost every post that shows some vulnerability and shares their belief we have lemmys trying to convince people about it not making sense.

    Be respectful guys. Thank you to all the upvoters of the actual content - I see you.

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      15 hours ago

      Given all of my unresolved prior trauma caused almost exclusively by my upbringing around those believing? No thanks. Fuck everyone that believes this shit. It too clearly self-selects the narcissist asshole who wants excuses to not have to answer for how shitty they are. They ram it into EVERYTHING and use it as a blanket for pure judgment amd shame of others. Fuck em all.

      And don’t give me this religion vs spirituality bullshit. Very clearly the vast majority are affected by religion. It ain’t my job to sort through that when 99% are clearly bad apples.

      I’m speaking from actual personal traumatic experiences from childhood home, multiple churches, multiple schools, and lots of extended family and family friends. Fuck. Them. All.

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    15 hours ago

    If there is a god or something like a god, it has to be the sun. The sun makes all life possible and has near infinite energy, I can not think of anything more deserving to be god. Will it save us or help us as individuals, i don’t think so, its a god we are insignificant in comparison and will burn when staying in its presence for two long. Also its real.

    Another idea I had was from Einsteins quote: “to believe in god you have everything to gain and nothing to lose.” So by that logic you better believe in all gods for maximum gain. There are a bunch more suns aswell ;)

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    For me “God” isn’t some person with wits and thoughts.

    It is just the circumstances in where we live. The time the physics the vibration and energy filling the matter and thoughts.

    There is no need in praying to it (except for you self). We’re in a happy stream full of energy filled with feeling “souls” going into the same direction in time and filling this strange place where we feel energy as matter, waves and colors.

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    There are definitions of “God” that I feel are hard to prove, but others that are easy. For example, of your definition is “God is the ultimate cause of the universe” then it’s pretty trivial that if everything has a cause there must be an end of the chain. Of course, this the could be a computer program running the universe simulation or even just the laws of physics themselves if those are truly causeless. But nonetheless, it’s still a somewhat satisfying definition of “God” so I’m comfortable saying I believe in God. Harder definitions include “God is an omnipotent being” (which most of God’s traditional attributes can be derived from) and “God is the being described in the Bible/Qu’ran/other religious text” which I feel like are unprovable.

    A lot of religious apologists will make arguments in favor of the easier definition and then try to claim that this means their specific view of God is real. Personally I think that’s insane. Like “there must be some end of the chain of causality therefore God became a Jewish carpenter in the ancient Roman Empire.” Even if you’re Christian that should be a bad logical jump.

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    21 hours ago

    In short, yes because you lose nothing by trying to emulate Jesus.

    That said, the church be crazy af

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      4 hours ago

      If emulating jesus was what the christian church was about I would have less scrupules

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        3 hours ago

        Define “Christian Church”. This almost invariably comes from former evangelicals in my experience.

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            You have to believe in the trinity to be a Christian. Regardless you aren’t going to find any group of people who are perfect. Christianity is all about how people are sinful and must commit daily to emulating Christ even though they will continuously fail. Regardless it sounds like you are opening yourself up for massive disappointment by casting such a wide net. There are many “Christian churches” which are just jokes if not outright scams. Christians can’t control who calls themselves a Christian. I encourage you to investigate the Eastern Orthodox church which has a rich tradition and clear direction for how the Orthodox should live their lives. It is Ancient Christianity that holds in high esteem prayer, fasting and alms giving. There is real spiritual meat on the bone.