When traveling or socializing we have less control of our food quality and preparation. What Carnivore options do you choose when your out?

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            Murder is a crime. It has some pretty simple definitions. I don’t think any of us are committing murder.

            If you wish to call meat production murder by analogy 1. You’re wrong; and 2. Is that worse than the (analogous) manslaughter committed against grassland animals in harvesting grains?

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              So after all these people came into the community, hexbear blocked our community, so they wont see our replies. I’m not sure we lost any subscribers when they blocked us - but it’s possible.

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                I don’t think I’m sad to see them gone, though I hope that when vegans organise a brigade, some of them read what they’re arguing against

                I wonder if the posts they attack now are intended to reduce exposure of their people to the science

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                  There is hope some will read, but most came by didn’t engage in a good faith discussion, what discussion that happened was focused on emotions rather then outcomes. Heck, they misquoted me, and slandered uninvolved people.

                  https://hexbear.net/post/4737964

                  I have noticed a trend, most people don’t want to have a discussion, or think about topics - They want to dump their opinion or emotional take and then walk away. Very rarely, vanishingly, will someone actually engage in a follow-up discussion after their initial dump.

                  This raises some interesting implications

                  • Most people are not interested in changing other people’s minds
                  • Most people are not interested in having a challenging discussion about a niche topic
                  • Most people are not interested in engaging at any depth

                  So most of lemmy is emotional hot takes, upvotes and downvotes based on feelings, and some political grandstanding… I suppose that is social media in general. Fair enough, people come to social media to vibe, and not discuss the topics they are not focused on.

                  Example - https://hackertalks.com/post/9675003/8318457

                  This person used 3 ad hominem attacks, one expert opinion cited twice (same person two interviews), and called published research not credible. My response was a dispassionate and complete as I could make it… no response at all. They only came into the conversation to drop their negativity on the topic, and no interest in moving the needle. It was a emotional interaction.

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                    Yeah the bulk are not looking to learn, but Reddit’s zerocarb community has a lot of ex-vegans who knew about carnivore (zero carb) only because they had been sent there to disrupt it, and so when their health deteriorated enough to make them abandon vegan they remembered zeeocarb’s mantra “meat heals”

                    I very much like your willingness to engage them

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            Please be polite in this community. I’m happy to talk to you about why i choose carnivore (personal health reasons) if that is helpful

            • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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              I don’t actually care about your reasons for eating the corpses of sentient beings. If you think I’m “impolite” for asking you to stop, that’s fine, but it’s still true that you pay to have sentient beings murdered so that you can eat their corpses. That’s just a fact.

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      We’re Hexbears, we don’t need alts, we’re just much more powerful posters than you. Our posts about piss and beans and pissing on beans get more upvotes than all of your posts combined.