Wasn’t sure if we were allowed to use that word in post titles so I censored it just in case.

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    5 hours ago

    Sun Tzu, The Art of War:

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” (That last describes the Democratic party to a tee.)

    So yes, it behooves us to understand them if we want to win. If you want to rage and stick your fingers in your ears, good luck with the toddler approach.

    And since 100 toddlers will take that statement to mean “appeasement” or “how to get on their level”, fuck you, you’re a child. Leave these discussions to grownups. In the mean time, go read a grownup book. (Hint: The Art of War is 100% applicable here.)

    Here’s one with far too much nuance for liberals:

    “When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”

    Not even going to explain that one in modern political terms. In any case, we lost, and goddammit we’re not going to learn anything from it!

    • RedSeries@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      EDIT: I think I’m just done here. The work will always need to be done by those most vulnerable and I’m just tired. I’m tired of being blamed and threatened when I’ve done everything I’m “supposed to do”. Donated to who I was “supposed to donate to”. Voted for who I was “supposed to vote for”. Understand whatever you want, no one on their side is really trying to understand me.

      I just can’t pretend that my allies are allies. I’ll be yelled at for venting. I’ll be told to calm down when I’m scared. I’ll be told to be enraged while trying to find some peace.

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        3 hours ago

        You armed? Because you fuck well should be, as well as practiced and educated.

        Oh shit. Just realized you missed the entire fucking point. You are losing Miss. Trans. It would be in your best fucking interest to figure out why you are losing and to do that you have to figure out what the enemy is thinking.

        Or, you could keep whining about how these people have no empathy for you. Yeah. We already knew that.

      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        4 hours ago

        Genuine question. How do you solve decades of religious indoctrination, poor education, and racism en masse?

        I could maybe educate my two parents, maybe. But then what?

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 hours ago

          Encourage them to educate their friends. Tell people you successfully educated your parents. You can’t change this alone, but that alone does heavy lifting in that sentence

    • Clent@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      5 hours ago

      We do know them. They are mostly stupid. They are mean. They are all trash.

      Some of them may not have been these things but if I have a garbage can and someone throws a perfectly good apple into, that apple is now trash.

      One can remove the apple and culture the bacteria to prove it.

      There is no reason to get to know the trash, it won’t stop being trash because I have further refined all of the smells and rot involved.

      If getting to know trash was possible we wouldn’t be were we are. The left has been attempting to understand for decades and it has only lead to the bacteria and rot infecting the democratic party to the point where calls for a new leftist party are increasing with each cycle.

        • Clent@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 hours ago

          Says the one that missed mine. We know what they are, trash. Doesn’t matter you or they accept it.

          Hate movements do not have the nuance you imagine them to have.