I originally thought about “and everyone in between”, but it does not sit well with me.
“Friends, foes, and those yet to decide.”
“Guys, gals and non-binary pals”
A famous German satirist always greets his audience with “Meine Damen und Herren und alle dazwischen und außerhalb” - Ladies and gentlement and everyone in between and beyond. I actually find that pretty cool.
Yeah absolutely love it, maximally inclusive, fun, and flows well.
I wonder who came up with it.
In Dutch people will solve that in mail by saying “Beste Mensen,” or “Lieve Allemaal” which translates as Dear People/ Dear All. Train stations don’t use “dear ladies/gentleman” announcements anymore, they say “dear travellers” instead. We just tend to avoid mentioning gender entirely lol.
Hey guys!
Should cover everyone
Well, guys is not an inclusive term that covers all genders. Just use “Hey everyone” instead.
The dictionary disagrees with you
(colloquial) Used to address a group of people regardless of gender
Then care to tell us how many guys you have shagged?
Why would I share personal info on the internet?
When I was a cashier I got a customer complaint because I refered to and I quote “A woman and her two young ladies” as guys.
Doesnt change the fact that especially trans people might not feel included in this term. I am not a guy and I dont want to be referred to as one.
At least regionally, “guys” as in “hey guys” and “you guys!!” and “uh, guys?” – that is, to address a group is indeed gender neutral.
In the Midwest you will absolutely hear spaces comprised solely of women use “guys” to address the group. Only the oldest sticklers/prescriptivists would insist said group be addressed as “ladies”
That said, more than a few trans women I’ve met – even locally – don’t have that lived experience and I can imagine they find it difficult to believe.
The search for less ambiguous language to protect their feeling of acceptance and safety is worthwhile even though “you guys” is a neutral address.
Hey y’all, Scott here
Do I legally have to change my name to Scott, though?
Just shorten the whole thing to “folks”
Substitute it for “Those I don’t know half as well as I should like and those I like half as well as you deserve.”
Greetings fellow aliens would work fine.
Just replace it all with “(my) goodpeople” or something similar. I personally wouldn’t want to add a non-binary option. I would remove the binary ones entirely. Make all people equal.
I’m a cis-man, and this might not be the popular non-binary option. I expect it to definitely not be the primary binary choice, as I think a lot of cis people want to be specifically recognized. I disagree with this though. Cis people aren’t better, so recognizing them specifically, but then everyone else as a different group, feels wrong.
I like this but unfortunately I identify as a bad person :/
I’m always a fan of just “my fellow degenerates”
Change it to, “Friends, Neighbors, Total Strangers who wandered in off the street…”
…and everybody else here NOT sitting on a cushion"
You all
Greetings humans!
Surprisingly not inclusive! Hi I’m a wolf (basically trans but for species instead of gender, yeah it’s a thing, look up therians if you’re curious :3).
– Frost
Do you think there’s a chance of explaining this in such a way that I could be convinced it’s possible or is this a “you just have to get it” kind of thing
'S’about like how for some people, they were assigned the wrong gender, they’re really an [opposite gender], being treated as [assigned gender] feels horrible and wrong, their body might feel horrible and wrong, etc.
Except with species instead of gender.
I didn’t know I had dysphoria until I learned that this is a thing, but it uh, explained some shit. I’ve totally got dysphoria. This body I’m stuck in just feels wrong in so many different ways. That’s obviously something you can’t really fully get without being trans yourself (species or gender! dysphoria’s the same concept either way, just about different body parts and stuff), but yeah.
– Frost
